2003 Caravan 3.3 not starting
The SKIM module may have failed,causing the ignition to lockup. This will cause a no crank or no start. SKIM ( Sentry Key Immobilizer Module).You would need to replace the module and have it program by the dealer.
Mine does not have the SKIM, Something strange happen tonight though. It started for a few seconds and died.
I haven't touched the van in about 2 days, thought I'd give it a try.
1st try: turned over and started, ran for about 5 seconds.
2nd try: turned over and started, kept the key in the start position and it ran for about 10 seconds
3rd try: turned over and started, kept the key in the start position and also feed it some gas, ran for almost 30 seconds and died.
4th try: would not turn over at all, back to the way it was for the last 5 days.
Guess I'm gonna let it sit for 2 days and then try again.
I haven't touched the van in about 2 days, thought I'd give it a try.
1st try: turned over and started, ran for about 5 seconds.
2nd try: turned over and started, kept the key in the start position and it ran for about 10 seconds
3rd try: turned over and started, kept the key in the start position and also feed it some gas, ran for almost 30 seconds and died.
4th try: would not turn over at all, back to the way it was for the last 5 days.
Guess I'm gonna let it sit for 2 days and then try again.
Found a Technical Service Bulletin for a start and stall
SUBJECT:
No-Start, Start & Stall, MIL Illumination, Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) P0508/P0509
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves replacing the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
MODELS:
2003 (RG) Chrysler Voyager
2003 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
2003 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 3.3L or 3.8L
engine (sales codes EGA, EGH, EGM).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
engine (sales codes EGA, EGH, EGM).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Vehicle operator may describe a engine no-start, or start & stall, or MIL illumination
with a rough/fluctuating idle. This condition may only occur in cold ambient
temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.). This condition may not be able to be duplicated
after the PCM has warmed above 0 C. (32 F.). This condition can only be
diagnosed in cold ambient temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.).
Technicians may find the following DTCs:
P0508 - IAC Value Sense Circuit Low
P0509 - IAC Value Sense Circuit High
with a rough/fluctuating idle. This condition may only occur in cold ambient
temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.). This condition may not be able to be duplicated
after the PCM has warmed above 0 C. (32 F.). This condition can only be
diagnosed in cold ambient temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.).
Technicians may find the following DTCs:
P0508 - IAC Value Sense Circuit Low
P0509 - IAC Value Sense Circuit High
DIAGNOSIS:
If the vehicle operator describes, or the technician experiences, any of the
Symptom/Conditions, perform the Repair Procedure.
Symptom/Conditions, perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
Qty. Part No. Description
AR See Note Below Module, Powertrain Control
NOTE: Order the part number PCM that is currently on the vehicle.Found a Technical Service Bulletin for a start and stall
SUBJECT:
No-Start, Start & Stall, MIL Illumination, Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) P0508/P0509
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves replacing the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
MODELS:
2003 (RG) Chrysler Voyager
2003 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 3.3L or 3.8L
engine (sales codes EGA, EGH, EGM).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Vehicle operator may describe a engine no-start, or start & stall, or MIL illumination
with a rough/fluctuating idle. This condition may only occur in cold ambient
temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.). This condition may not be able to be duplicated
after the PCM has warmed above 0 C. (32 F.). This condition can only be
diagnosed in cold ambient temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.).
Technicians may find the following DTCs:
P0508 - IAC Value Sense Circuit Low
P0509 - IAC Value Sense Circuit High
DIAGNOSIS:
If the vehicle operator describes, or the technician experiences, any of the
Symptom/Conditions, perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
AR See Note Below Module, Powertrain Control
NOTE: Order the part number PCM that is currently on the vehicle.No-Start, Start & Stall, MIL Illumination, Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) P0508/P0509
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves replacing the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
MODELS:
2003 (RG) Chrysler Voyager
2003 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 3.3L or 3.8L
engine (sales codes EGA, EGH, EGM).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Vehicle operator may describe a engine no-start, or start & stall, or MIL illumination
with a rough/fluctuating idle. This condition may only occur in cold ambient
temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.). This condition may not be able to be duplicated
after the PCM has warmed above 0 C. (32 F.). This condition can only be
diagnosed in cold ambient temperatures; below 0 C. (32 F.).
Technicians may find the following DTCs:
P0508 - IAC Value Sense Circuit Low
P0509 - IAC Value Sense Circuit High
DIAGNOSIS:
If the vehicle operator describes, or the technician experiences, any of the
Symptom/Conditions, perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
AR See Note Below Module, Powertrain Control
Update: If anyone stumbles across the same situation my problem was the PCM. It was $200 from autozone with a 3 year warranty.
Also reference this thread: https://dodgeforum.com/forum/dodge-c...a-new-pcm.html
Also reference this thread: https://dodgeforum.com/forum/dodge-c...a-new-pcm.html
I got this code during the summer in Iowa and just last Saturday the wife's van won't start in the winter. Of course now I can't get a code.
Checked resistance of battery cable - good
Pin 85 to 31 good
Pin 87 to silenoid good
Turn Key on and check power to pin 86 good.
Checked for Cracked wires by motor mount, battery box and fuse box all good.
I'm gonna change the PCM tomorrow and see if that does the trick.
Checked resistance of battery cable - good
Pin 85 to 31 good
Pin 87 to silenoid good
Turn Key on and check power to pin 86 good.
Checked for Cracked wires by motor mount, battery box and fuse box all good.
I'm gonna change the PCM tomorrow and see if that does the trick.



