SXT vs RT
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ORIGINAL: BODIEO
Well, spend four grand for the shop manuals then split the exhaust into four inch duelies, tack it out to max in the first three gears and save up for that long in coming performance chip. Jack it up monthly and hit all the bushings with some lubricant and rest assured the tranny and converter will handle all the increased power transfer the chip will allow. Stupid questions don't need a patent. Learn about MAGGIE and you will find the finest, toughest, bulletproof bad assed car since the Daytona........
Well, spend four grand for the shop manuals then split the exhaust into four inch duelies, tack it out to max in the first three gears and save up for that long in coming performance chip. Jack it up monthly and hit all the bushings with some lubricant and rest assured the tranny and converter will handle all the increased power transfer the chip will allow. Stupid questions don't need a patent. Learn about MAGGIE and you will find the finest, toughest, bulletproof bad assed car since the Daytona........
WTH? I didn't question if the tranny could handle the power. I've had the same tranny in other cars with over 600 HP (they didn't have this stupid torqe converter lockup system though) with no problems. Were you replying to someone else???
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ORIGINAL: sikpuppy
Actually, chip should be out pretty soon. It's already been tested and is waiting for CARB approval right now. If we can get the 3.5L crank HP up to what the 5.7L has, the car should be a rocket since the SXT version comes with a DC quoted "3.90" rear end , actually it is a 3.86 according to my build sheet, and the R/T has 2.82. I'll be doing some dyno testing again next week on mine with some new mods and will let you guys know what my results are. Stock @ 250 crank HP should be around 200 HP @ the rear wheel and most of the 5.7 dynos I've seen have been around 275 - 285 HP. I'll post my results when available. Just lovin' my Semi-Hemi Magnum!!
Actually, chip should be out pretty soon. It's already been tested and is waiting for CARB approval right now. If we can get the 3.5L crank HP up to what the 5.7L has, the car should be a rocket since the SXT version comes with a DC quoted "3.90" rear end , actually it is a 3.86 according to my build sheet, and the R/T has 2.82. I'll be doing some dyno testing again next week on mine with some new mods and will let you guys know what my results are. Stock @ 250 crank HP should be around 200 HP @ the rear wheel and most of the 5.7 dynos I've seen have been around 275 - 285 HP. I'll post my results when available. Just lovin' my Semi-Hemi Magnum!!
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AMU-sport appearance group is now available for Magnum SXT buyers. $300 MSRP
It includes:
3.5 Highoutput Badge-MZP-NEW
Chrome Headlamp Bezel-MFP-NEW
Fog Lamps-LNJ-NEW
Power Heated Mirrors Fold Away-GTS-NEW
17x7 Machined Aluminum Wheels-NEW
The mirrors are painted, the 3.5 bades are in the same place as the Hemi badges, the
wheels are a machined design with the same finish as the AWD. As always if you get the
new SXT with AWD it defaults you to 18in wheels and tires. I know I've posted this on this
forum before, just FYI, thought you all might enjoy
It includes:
3.5 Highoutput Badge-MZP-NEW
Chrome Headlamp Bezel-MFP-NEW
Fog Lamps-LNJ-NEW
Power Heated Mirrors Fold Away-GTS-NEW
17x7 Machined Aluminum Wheels-NEW
The mirrors are painted, the 3.5 bades are in the same place as the Hemi badges, the
wheels are a machined design with the same finish as the AWD. As always if you get the
new SXT with AWD it defaults you to 18in wheels and tires. I know I've posted this on this
forum before, just FYI, thought you all might enjoy
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RE: SXT vs RT
I would think that for $300 you could spend the money for an air intake and some foglights...I quote the line from "Blazing Saddles"..."badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!" Of course, with the machined wheels it would be worth it!
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AMU-sport appearance group is now available for Magnum SXT buyers. $300 MSRP
It includes:
3.5 Highoutput Badge-MZP-NEW
Chrome Headlamp Bezel-MFP-NEW
Fog Lamps-LNJ-NEW
Power Heated Mirrors Fold Away-GTS-NEW
17x7 Machined Aluminum Wheels-NEW
The mirrors are painted, the 3.5 bades are in the same place as the Hemi badges, the
wheels are a machined design with the same finish as the AWD. As always if you get the
new SXT with AWD it defaults you to 18in wheels and tires. I know I've posted this on this
forum before, just FYI, thought you all might enjoy
AMU-sport appearance group is now available for Magnum SXT buyers. $300 MSRP
It includes:
3.5 Highoutput Badge-MZP-NEW
Chrome Headlamp Bezel-MFP-NEW
Fog Lamps-LNJ-NEW
Power Heated Mirrors Fold Away-GTS-NEW
17x7 Machined Aluminum Wheels-NEW
The mirrors are painted, the 3.5 bades are in the same place as the Hemi badges, the
wheels are a machined design with the same finish as the AWD. As always if you get the
new SXT with AWD it defaults you to 18in wheels and tires. I know I've posted this on this
forum before, just FYI, thought you all might enjoy
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Wow.. I just cant keep quiet. Some of the SXT owners sound as if there is no diffrence between the SXT and the RT. If someone is impliing to you that the performance between them is only minimal, they clearly have never driven the RT or triing desperately to have you belive the SXT is a performance car.
The SE is a 2.7L, 190 HP, and 190 ftlb entry level Magnum. A great car to send with your kid off to college.
The SXT is a 3.5L, 250 HP and 250 ftlb and is a nice car for every day comuting. This 3.5L does give you a nice balance between economy and performance, giveing you a taste of both. The RTgives you 340 HP and 390 ftlb. The curb weight of the Magnum is 4179lbs. Weight to power ratio for the SXT is 16.7lb per 1HP or 1ftlb of TQ. That ratio for the RT is 12.3lb per 1Hp and 10.7lb per 1ftlb of TQ. This is a marked diffrence in performance.
Your transmission in the RT is a five speed vs the four speed in the SXT. The fist gear in the RT is much deeper then that of the SXT. The 3.86 gears are need to overcome this diffrence in transmission gearing and so your motors can rev up more quickly. The combination of the deeper 1st gear of the RT and the 2.82 is a great hole shot performer. RT 0-60 in 6.2 sec.( Motor Trend) SXT 0-60 8.4 sec. (Cars.com)
The spring rateing is a little softer then the RT. (Diffrent part numbers then the RT and from driving both cars). On the long trips the SXT feels better on the back side. Skid pad of SXT .78g (Cars.com) and RT is .82g. (Motor Trend)
The SXT gives you a flavor of performance with the 4 wheel disc brakes. Stoping distance 60-0 SXT 147' (Motor Trend). The SXT has single piston calipers and 10" discs front and rear. The RT has 10" discs rear and 12" discs up front. The front are twin piston calipers as well giving the RT a 60-0 stop in 129ft. (Road and Track) Dont worry, the Pacifica stops in 125ft. It kicked both our buts.
The numbers speak for them self. Drive both cars. Either way you go, you cant go wrong.
YAAA HOOO my first post.
The SE is a 2.7L, 190 HP, and 190 ftlb entry level Magnum. A great car to send with your kid off to college.
The SXT is a 3.5L, 250 HP and 250 ftlb and is a nice car for every day comuting. This 3.5L does give you a nice balance between economy and performance, giveing you a taste of both. The RTgives you 340 HP and 390 ftlb. The curb weight of the Magnum is 4179lbs. Weight to power ratio for the SXT is 16.7lb per 1HP or 1ftlb of TQ. That ratio for the RT is 12.3lb per 1Hp and 10.7lb per 1ftlb of TQ. This is a marked diffrence in performance.
Your transmission in the RT is a five speed vs the four speed in the SXT. The fist gear in the RT is much deeper then that of the SXT. The 3.86 gears are need to overcome this diffrence in transmission gearing and so your motors can rev up more quickly. The combination of the deeper 1st gear of the RT and the 2.82 is a great hole shot performer. RT 0-60 in 6.2 sec.( Motor Trend) SXT 0-60 8.4 sec. (Cars.com)
The spring rateing is a little softer then the RT. (Diffrent part numbers then the RT and from driving both cars). On the long trips the SXT feels better on the back side. Skid pad of SXT .78g (Cars.com) and RT is .82g. (Motor Trend)
The SXT gives you a flavor of performance with the 4 wheel disc brakes. Stoping distance 60-0 SXT 147' (Motor Trend). The SXT has single piston calipers and 10" discs front and rear. The RT has 10" discs rear and 12" discs up front. The front are twin piston calipers as well giving the RT a 60-0 stop in 129ft. (Road and Track) Dont worry, the Pacifica stops in 125ft. It kicked both our buts.
The numbers speak for them self. Drive both cars. Either way you go, you cant go wrong.
YAAA HOOO my first post.
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Yes Rami, you're right but other non-performance issues that I would like to take in consideration are MPG and insurance. There's been endless debate about RT and SXT and when I originated this thread I was curious.
My conclusion...no matter what you choose, it's a winner! Whatever floats your boat and there appears to be a whole bunch of aftermarket performance items available for both models.
I have to wait to get my Magnum but I enjoy everyone's experiences!
My conclusion...no matter what you choose, it's a winner! Whatever floats your boat and there appears to be a whole bunch of aftermarket performance items available for both models.
I have to wait to get my Magnum but I enjoy everyone's experiences!
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CMDI, The insurance and MPG are on the economy side of the SXTs performance/ economy ratio. Its two big things that help make the SXT attractive over the RT. But, as you said so elliquently, Witch ever you deside, your on the winning side.
