The 60 ft. is where you win races. The general rule is for every 1/10 you drop in the 60 ft, is about a 2/10 gain in the quarter.

 

the TREE is where you win races.

 

I think you just want to argue with that statement. The tree is actual time, its factored into the ET, but a 1/10 in the 60 ft is about 2/10 in a 1/4 mile, so if the other guy beat you by 1/10 at the light but you beat him by 1/10 in the 60 ft, youd pick up about 2/10 in the quarter, if the cars were equal and beat him.

 

i dont know about that...if i tree someone by a tenth...say i pull a .520 light, and he pulls a .620 light...the race is over, plain and simple. i know how both of my cars hook, and so forth, so if i see that ive treed someone that hard, the odds are im gonna roll through top end in the mirada around 100mph, because ill be so far ahead. i am, of course, speaking of a .500 uneven tree. not all of us are lucky enough to run NHRA top fuel, or whatever category in which you compete.

your car is fast..dont get me wrong, but dont preach...ive seen a cobra drive in and run 10.20s with a passenger...when youre in the 8s, with video to prove it, with YOU driving, im sure we will all bow down to you.

 

The true definition of a muscle car is simply a 2 dr. sports car with a 400ci or larger engine.

In 1979 the Pontiac Trans Am was billed as the "Last American Musclecar", but as we know since then muscle has made a comeback.

 

You just eliminated all 354 and 392 hemi powered Chrysler 300s fom the 50s, the 389 cid '64 GTO, the '67 Chevelle SS 396, the '68 383 Roadrunner, etc., etc., etc. none of which were sports cars or had an engine 400 cubes or larger. The GTO and the Roadrunner are considered two of the most significant musclecars of all time.

 

i thought it was 350Ci or larger

which makes my dads truck a "muscle truck" i guess

 

Amazing! This is the first time I have ever heard that muscle cars depend upon a minimum of cubic inches. One of the fastest STOCK musclecars I have ever been in was a 1966 Chevy II with a 327/350 h.p. and a four-speed. He ate up street hemi's on Woodward as if they were parked. There were some pretty strong 340's with tri-power out there, too, so the minimum is not 350 or 400. A definition that might make more sense is an engine that makes no sense (to most people!). Somehow, I think doing the 1/4 in less than 15 seconds is a requirement.

 

yea idont think theres is really one set deffinition for a muscle car, liek with gun laws, if some says one thing...someone else will eb unhappy with it

 

I didn't eliminate them. The definition I was raised with did. Those that you mention with the smaller engines were referred to as Pony Cars back in the day.

Muscle Car wasn't even a term known in the 50's BTW.

Both GTO and Roadrunner had 400+ engines available, so yes, they were significant musclecars.