OK. As long as your proud of that. Not really that much of an accomplishment, but it could be a benchmark I suppose.

 

my RT destroyed a 6 cylinder camaro.....

i think that alot of peoples concern is that anyone can get a time slip...and pics of a fast car...

 

If you doubt it go to www.fwdperformance.com and you will see some flash photos changing every few seconds, you will see a white r/t that has my name on it. If you think thats just B.S. you can call FWDP at 281-288-4411 or 281-642-3878 ask for Cindy, shes the owner and partial sponsor on my drag car. She will verify the E.Ts, or goto Turbododge.com, ask them in there, I have the same screen name.

71RR, fine you dont believe my numbers of 13.98, like I stated earlier it undermines your assumptions. I dont really care what your definition of flaming is/was, should be, would it suit you better if I think you called me a liar?

Drag does make a difference, at what point do you think drag magically makes a difference 100, 105, 106, 110, 112? Its a constantly multiplying factor.

I go by what a scale says with 2 cars at the same time, same day, same scale. In fact my SRT4 buddy is comming up Sat. I will try to make sure we both go weigh the cars.

On the tire issue, you surely realize the differnce between radials and bias, do a little studying on the differnce between radials and wrinkle walls. Also as you stated earlier SRT4s can drap at least a 1/2 sec, what proof do you have of this? Id like to see 60 ft times. Never seen a R/T do that with deflated tires, Ive tried.

Mopartodd, my response to tearing up the Hemi is the pic of real cars have a Hemi. PLus this discussion was about what a real muscle car is, funny that Dodge wants desprately to call the new station wagon or 300c a muscle car? I wonder whos going to tell them they dont qualify? Havent run across a new Hemi yet, I couldnt punish, even manages to thrash a few old ones, I know the comeback so dont go there.......My car is what it is, a reliable daily driver, with A/C,tilt, cruise, 30+ mpg that runs 11s. Not the fastest thing on the planet but, its fun.

 

See, now that's better. Your right, I don't believe that you took a bone stock, straight from the factory unaltered and untouched (except for the drives door, drivers seat, steering wheel, pedals and shifter) Spirit R/T down the 1/4 mile in 13.98 sec. This is something I would have to see for myself to believe.

Drag coefficient does make a difference, but within a 1/4 mile drag race at the speeds the cars in question are going it doesn't make a discernable difference and isn't a great enough factor to change the outcome. Now if these cars were within 1/100th of a second or less of each other, then their respective drag coefficients might change the outcome. Now if you wish to continue sticking to your "drag coefficient makes a big difference" arguement, then that would bring up the fact that the stickier compound of the SRT-4's tires create greater friction with the track increasing it's rolling resistance. But I understand that this, just like the drag coefficient, has little to no effect on the outcome of a 1/4 mile drag race between these cars.

"On the tire issue, you surely realize the differnce between radials and bias, do a little studying on the differnce between radials and wrinkle walls."

I know the differences between radials and slicks. Your so full of holes on your arguement, earlier you acknowledged that dropping the tire pressure of a stock radial tire will help the car launch and here your contradicting yourself by saying that it doesn't, it would be nice if you could get your story straight.

"Also as you stated earlier SRT4s can drap at least a 1/2 sec, what proof do you have of this? Id like to see 60 ft times. Never seen a R/T do that with deflated tires, Ive tried."

How and where in the hell did you come up with this BS, I never said such a thing, would you quit making stuff up. I never made such a claim, I simply said that by dropping the tire pressure they can drop off a couple tenths, never did I say at least 1/2 a second. I have however heard people claim to have dropped up to half a second in an SRT-4 by doing this, but I never mentioned it until now. I also have not personally seen that big of a drop in an SRT-4 by simply dropping the stock tire pressure. The R/T's having a taller tire should notice even greater gains than an SRT-4 from dropping the tire pressure.

 

Hey 71RR. Do you remember an article several years ago about a guy who twin turbo'd his a-body a-engine car. It had to be in Mopar Action , or Muscle. Now that was sweet. Took some real work to come up with a kick a$$ car. Wonder what something like that would run, and I've always wondered why we don't see more turbo v-8 cars around.

 

im afraid that i dont know how soemone with so much drag racing experience can question the fact that dropping the pressure in the tires can help alot. i run about 16psi in my hoosiers on the mirada. if i was to bump to, say 22psi, id be surprised if i could get into the 12s because my traction would be so poor, especially considering heat growth

 

Were talking about street tires, not slicks which is where tire pressure makes a huge difference. I apologize, I was lazy and didnt go back and re-read the post, it was a couple of tenths. Funny thing though, Ive never had even a couple tenths difference nor has my buddy in his SRT. You can see his car in my video listed previously, it video 13.

So are these theths in the 60 ft. or what?....BTW do you own a SRT4 or are you paper racing one?

Remember I like my steak medium well.

 

i dont own an SRT-4, and i dont paper race...i have an 83 mirada, running mid 12s, DOTs/mufflers

i good run with 16psi in my DOTs i can hook to a 1.68 or so. if i let the pressure get up around 20psi, i pull around 1.88, and if i really light them up, it can get as bad as 1.90s.

 

No, I just have one listed and pictured in my sig, pictured in my gallery and out in my driveway to fool people into thinking that I have one. As far as the tenths go, I'm not sure if it's in the first 60 ft. or not, I've seen them lower the pressure and run quicker, I didn't ruch over to them and demand to see their timeslips to find out where exactly they dropped their time. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it made it quicker throughout, from the 60 ft. mark and on since they made it to the finish line faster than before.

 

I've read that if you're going to drop time somewhere, the best place is the 60 ft.

Oh yeah. I knew that SRT-4 was all just [sm=bs.gif][sm=smiley2.gif].