Need some turbo help
Ok, I was looking at the Chill Factory turbo kit from howell, first, how would everyone rate this kit, second, and this is bad that I'm asking, what does the intercooler do and how does it do it? Third, what else should I do as I'm putting this on, you know, what do I have to do as far as extras, and what should I do just cuz I can?? Any, and all help is appreciated.
Chill Factory is very good. Probably a little better than an HRC kit.
What a turbo does is compresses air. And when you compress something you build heat. So, in escence it super heats the air being sucked intot he turbo. What an intercooler does is cools that super heated air by about 100* or more depending on the size of the intercooler and turbo. As we all know hot air in your intake charge isn't generally a good thing which is why CAI's are used. But int a turbo application a CAI is virtually useless since the air gets compressed so an intercooler is used in place of a CAI to cool the air down before it reaches the throttle body and combustion chamber.
Generally you don't have to do any major internal engine modifications. But a new cam and valve springs are recommended.
I'm not sure what comes in the CF kit but if these items don't come with it it is recommended that you get them.
Fuel Pump.
At least 24Lb. injectors.
High-flow fuel rail.
RRFPR (rising rate fuel pressure regulator).
And as always if you've got he cash and want to really make the car powerful, forged internals are always a good thing.
What a turbo does is compresses air. And when you compress something you build heat. So, in escence it super heats the air being sucked intot he turbo. What an intercooler does is cools that super heated air by about 100* or more depending on the size of the intercooler and turbo. As we all know hot air in your intake charge isn't generally a good thing which is why CAI's are used. But int a turbo application a CAI is virtually useless since the air gets compressed so an intercooler is used in place of a CAI to cool the air down before it reaches the throttle body and combustion chamber.
Generally you don't have to do any major internal engine modifications. But a new cam and valve springs are recommended.
I'm not sure what comes in the CF kit but if these items don't come with it it is recommended that you get them.
Fuel Pump.
At least 24Lb. injectors.
High-flow fuel rail.
RRFPR (rising rate fuel pressure regulator).
And as always if you've got he cash and want to really make the car powerful, forged internals are always a good thing.
Thanks Squee
according to howell, you don't have to upgrade your fuel or ignition system except for the injectors which they supply.
Cash? Whats that, I got plastic, and a low apr? I love good credit.
according to howell, you don't have to upgrade your fuel or ignition system except for the injectors which they supply.
Cash? Whats that, I got plastic, and a low apr? I love good credit.
Generally with the kits you don't have to do too much to the car to build some power provided you are going to run low boost.
However a lot of people will upgrade the fuels systems because they are planning on running a little more boost than what the kit does. Most kits run between 8 and 10 pounds of boost. Which is typical for just about anyone.
And I'd be real careful with that plastic. I used to have great credit. And right now. I've got no CC's, bad credit and can't get loans, CC's, or buy a house or a new car. The credit is good as long as you can pay for what you buy when the bill comes in. I regret ever having credit cards. And if I could go back and do it all again, I'd never get a credit card.
However a lot of people will upgrade the fuels systems because they are planning on running a little more boost than what the kit does. Most kits run between 8 and 10 pounds of boost. Which is typical for just about anyone.
And I'd be real careful with that plastic. I used to have great credit. And right now. I've got no CC's, bad credit and can't get loans, CC's, or buy a house or a new car. The credit is good as long as you can pay for what you buy when the bill comes in. I regret ever having credit cards. And if I could go back and do it all again, I'd never get a credit card.
forget turbo kits. piece your own together, you save money and you learn alot more. if you wanna start getting into forced induction aka turbo/super charging, i suggest picking up a book called Maximum Boost. it's an excellent book worth every penny. teach you everything you need to know about turbochargers. it is a definite must read if you don't wanna blow your motor and flush your hard earned cash down the toilet.
Maximum Boost is an awesome book.
However, keep in mind piecing together your own kit isn't as easy as it sounds. You'll end up spending close to what you normally would buying a kit. Trust me. I'm speaking from experience.
I've spent the past 2 years putting together my own kit and I'm still not done. I've got a few more parts to get before I can install everything. I've spent a little over $2K.
However, keep in mind piecing together your own kit isn't as easy as it sounds. You'll end up spending close to what you normally would buying a kit. Trust me. I'm speaking from experience.
I've spent the past 2 years putting together my own kit and I'm still not done. I've got a few more parts to get before I can install everything. I've spent a little over $2K.
You can piece together a good turbo for $1500, if you know whaqt your doing, that minus the intercooler. The chill factory is what goin on my neon. With a cam and PCM its the best upgrade I've seen. I know a good deal about motors, could build a turbo, but Chill Factory already did the research.
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I have a friend who put together a turbo kit for $800 it was ghetto but he was pulling 12's with it till he blew his motor.
I know what I'm doing. I'm trying to get all the best parts at reasonable prices. I got a Garrett Airesearch Super 60 for pretty damn cheap $300. A Chill Factory Manifold $450. I too know quite a bit about turbos. The hardest part about building your own kit is getting good parts from reliable sources. My first turbo that I had gotten I was told it was in like new condition, when I actually recieved it it had a ton of shaft play and it was too small to really be any good. SO I scrapped it.
I know what I'm doing. I'm trying to get all the best parts at reasonable prices. I got a Garrett Airesearch Super 60 for pretty damn cheap $300. A Chill Factory Manifold $450. I too know quite a bit about turbos. The hardest part about building your own kit is getting good parts from reliable sources. My first turbo that I had gotten I was told it was in like new condition, when I actually recieved it it had a ton of shaft play and it was too small to really be any good. SO I scrapped it.
Its easier to just buy a kit and install that, then you at least have a starting point. From there if you know what you are doing its really easy to make upgrades if you need/want to.
I agree, you can piece one together, but for someone who does not know that much about them, the kit is better. I am looking at the chill factory but if i'm right $3500 is pricy, when you can spend some time and piece it together for $1500- $2000, and have the same stuff.


