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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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Is it a good idea or not???
I know that it is a fairly easy process and it turns up the notch on your speed, but is it worth it???
Can anything seriously bad happen without it??
Hit me up with some info!!!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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You're car's pretty new. It probably could take a few more revs, but it's good to have a limit, and if you're new it's REALLY good. You'd be surprised how quickly you hit the limit in first in these cars. Probably best bet for you is to get an aftermarket PCM that would raise the rev limit but not eliminate it all together (once available). Also---to remove it would take some creative software work on your part. No one's done it yet on 1st gen except retailers and of course they still leave a limiter. Albeit as high as 8100 RPM in one case--still it is a limit.

I personally think you risking a lot about about 7000-7200 in a stock SOHC. My mildly built up 1st gen SOHC with a crane 12 and a DOHC PCM that revs to 7800 RPM makes me very nervous about 7400, but I've surprised myself as I said and hit the limiter a couple times.

Also. . . one more thing to consider. . . .you would be making a LOT better use out of 7000 RPM if you had a longer duration cam. An aftermarket PCM would be good. . . a cam when you can spare time to swap 'em.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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wow, a lot of terms i dont know lol
whats a PCM???

and yeah, i am thinking about getting a crane #12...
i heard it requires taking apart the engine... is that true??
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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PCM = engine controller, aka: Computer.

I have not serviced a 2nd gen so I do not know, but they say in the first gen you must pull the motor because when removing the SOHC cam you can't pull straight out of the hole without hitting the fender. I have not found that to be true--unbolt the passenger side motor mount, front if you have to (or have mount inserts like me) and jack up a little on passenger side so that the engine is basically aiming at an angle out the passenger side. Not so tough that way. However, if you have not changed cams yet you probably ought to pay a couple hundred to have a shop do it---they'll probably get it zeroed in pretty good and it may be warranted for a while.

I can tell you my #12 cam is my number 1 favorite change I've made. . . . and I've made a lot to free up HP. switched to manual steer, pcm, underdrive, rebuild etc, etc.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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awesome man, ill look into getting that #12 cam...
thanx for the info!!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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A camshaft swap should be the first mod for anybody serious about haveing more power in their neon just because you won't gain a whole lot till you install one. The stock cam is way to wimpy.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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It's also physically impossible to remove the rev limiter on the Neon. It's programmed into the PCM, this has already been covered. You can like it was stated earlier to swap over to a performance PCM like a Mopar or an AF/X but you won't be able to actually get rid of it but the performance PCM will move it higher int he powerband.

And the Crane 12 as far as I know will only work if you have a SOHC (Single Overhead Cam) Neon. If you have a DOHC you ahve to go with DOHC cams.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 01:27 AM
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Default RE: Taking off the Rev Limiter

And if I'm not mistaken a camshaft will tell you when you're done revving even if you somehow do remove limit on the pcm. That right?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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No. it's got nothing to do with the cam.

Usually what happens is the car will stop the fuel flow at a certain point generally before it'll hit the rev limiter so you'll get a choking or sputtering sound just at the point you start bouncing off the limiter.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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where is the pcm computer located? I wana hook up a tach and its not reading it off the igniton coil so i herd it has to be conected to the pcm. is this true ?
 
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