Oh, ok. For a valve body you can do that yourself with simple hand tools in about 2 hours. When you are ready to rebuild the tranny I have a list of what you will need. Just lemme know and I can help ya out.

 

this is to crazy squee, i too have a 03 se neon automatic. i read have read this whole script on this guys neon debate. well could you forward me some info on what to do and start on my atx. i work at a junkyard/ used car dealership and i had the choice to pick auto or stick. i talked to the head mechanic at work and he said the auto will always shift faster and everyone in town has a stick so i picked the the auto. so could you please help me out -tom- addresse - tapaulick@yahoo.com

 

ATX good for that turbo if many will remember. Back in Mopar Action a few years ago, a trial was done with one of first many Blue Ribbon superchargers and the ATX was a better deal due to the induced torque from the supercharger. Not to mention when another test was done with say, NOS, the MTX grenaded and the engine being forced so low a gear blew the heads off. OUCH!

 

What do you want to know?

 

i just don't get all of the arguement here. all of the money you would spend buying a new neon ( 00 and up ) and then you spend all this money on an intake and turbo maybe exhaust and "ohh la la" a CAI!! and then some of you go with such things as nitrous and other stuff. Think of all the money you spend beefing up the family cars. don't get me wrong-- anything can be fast if you sink eough money into it. I always laugh when someone talks about their honda being fast. or their neon or whatever. and do you know what the next comment that comes out of their mouth??--think about it. what does anyone that has a fast 4 cylinder say that their car can do??? thats right we have a winner the number one comment made by 4 cylinder enthusiast is " yeah, my car can beat a mustang". i love that. if you do have a car that is a 4cyl that can do that then guess what? you have spent way to damn much money on that car. if you have it to spend fine. but don't tell me that your moms civic with that power-robbing exhaust on it is gonna outrun a mustang. especially one of the 5.0's of the late 80's and early 90's. what it comes down to is there is no replacement for displacement.

I have had mustangs and many 4 cyl cars. some with turbos. and i did have one that would get a 5.0 on top end only because of the turbo. but think about this. say you spend 8 grand on a newer neon. and then 15 hundred (lowball figure) on a turbo. then you sink about 300 into exhaust. and say another 15 hundred on the tranny as to not break it in half and then another 2 thousand in misc. parts and accessories. all with the grand idea of someday pulling up beside a v8 and not having your windshield sucked out of your car as he blows by you. and lets just pretend that you can beat one. which with all of this and someone that knows what they are doing it is entirely possible.

now lets add up all the money you have spent on you economy car 13,300. thats alot of money of a gas saver. and you might just barely be able to get a mustang. but then think about this. that 5.0 you may beat cost about 4 thousand these days. that means you have damn near 10 thousand more invested in your car than the other guy. and if you invested that much money to in that mustang there is no way in hell you could touch him in a 1/4 an 1/8th or anywhere.

i guess my question is whats the use? if you turbo the mustang and thats all you do. by by neon or whatever.

leave em stock and save gas. get a real job and buy a real sports car.

josh

 

You my friend. Are a moron. You've just said some of the stupidest **** I've ever heard.

MAYBE take a Mustang?

Let me guess, you've never heard of Scott Mohler? Chris Barnett? Or any of the other various Neon people who have beat plenty of V8 cars in the 1/4 mile and the 1/8 mile. Chris Barnett has placed first for the past 2 years in the FWD class and has pissed off more RWD drivers than he can shake a stick at because he walks away with the trophy and the money that they in their "god-like" V8's should've, could've, would've beat his lowly 4 banger.

Second of all there never was a 5.0 Mustang. It always has been a 4.9 with 5.0 liter badges. And now they have the 4.6 liter Mustang with 5.0 badges.

The point of it is. We can do it. Just like back in the day when someone decided to build up a V8. Have you ever thought that perhaps some of us build up our 4 cylinders because we can? And maybe next time before you open up that ignorant uneducated mouth of yours and type some stupid ridiculous **** that makes absolutely no sense you could get a clue about what youa re trying to talk about.

And what do you mean "Get a real job." You've got no clue what any of us do. Sure, some of us might work in McDonalds. But how in the hell do you know that some of us don't work for Lockheed Martin? Raytheon? Building airplanes and bombs.

The term "Real job." pisses me off because if you work and make money no matter how minut it is you have a job and it is real. I happen to be in life safety. I make sure that stupid people like you are safe when you wake up in the morning and go to your "pretend" job making your "pretend" money so you can buy that really really expensive "pretend" sports car. See how dumb that sounds?

Oh, and if you have a Mustang, guess what? You still drive a Ford. A Mustang is one of the heaviest cars on the market and doesn't produce enough power to get out of it's own way, unless you spend a lot of money building it up and dropping in a 350 so it runs for more than 20 minutes. No one here has a Civic, if you noticed the name of the Forum, it's called "DODGE FORUM" meaning, Dodge's, Chrysler's, Plymouth's even some DSM's like Talon.

You are however absolutely right. There is no replacement for displacement. But remember, torque is king, without it horsepower doesn't mean jack.

Guess what? When you spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on building up your 4cyl you are in effect creating displacement. A simple turbo on a 4 cylinder can produce well over 200 horsepower. in fact I've been in plenty of Neons with simple turbos throwing down 275+ TO THE WHEELS. I've also seen plenty of dyno sheets to back it up.

So next time you say something to cause a ruckus or start an argument, at least try to sound intelligent because you just made yourself sound like a moron. Now, if you don't mind, go back to your Mustang forum and dream of the days when you can afford to buy a real car that doesn't spend som much time broken down and doesn't have this badge:



At least they've circled the problem.

If you don't understand, try to educate yourself instead of flaming.

 

beautifully put crazy. I could not have said it any better myself.

 

just to lat you know up front i didn't even waste my time reading your entire post. you start by rattling off some names of PORFESSIONAL racers i assume. i am talking about on the street jackass---and did i ever say that 4 cyls can't take v8's???? nope never did. i clearly said i had one that would. so now what do you have to say. maybe appoligize for not getting my point and blowing up? that would be a good start. my point is that if you wanna go fast and get the best bang for your buck then go with a car that was intended to go fast. not the family sedan. once again my point is that you can go alot faster for alot less money with a real sports car. end.

 

Once agin, you've proved my point on your ignorance.

Funny, sounds to me like you did say a 4cyl couldn't take a V8.

Oh, and again here.

Care to go for a third time?

Can't forget about this little gem right here too.

Oh, and you said Which also leads me to believe that the 4cyl. turbo you did have only pulled on it by shear luck and that it normally wouldn't be able to do that. Could it of won because the Mustang was parked on the side of the road as usual and if it had actually been running would've beat the 4cyl. with a turbo?

No, I think I got your point pretty well actually. There is nothing for me to apologize about. Now, you may resume backpedaling as if you are treading water.

 

*sigh* kids.