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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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It wasn't, I was reffering to the service neutral coming from the pole that connects to ur house.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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It wasn't, I was reffering to the service neutral coming from the pole that connects to ur house.
out here most of us now have underground feeds. the conductors (phase A, B, and N are all insulated.)

the old overheads do have an open neutral..according to the (national electrical code) N.E.C., that is allowable...but you also ahve to realize that the utility companies follow a variation of the N.E.C. too. dang, so does the military for that matter...they have "the way that works in the field is fine for our buildings" way. try workin on base and every room has more code violations than a hooker on discount day...


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here in Arizona, and any other arrid desert, you can drive as many 5/8" x 10ft ground rods that you can handle. it is TOO DRY for a proper earth ground unless you locate them in the lawn or irrigation area that is moisturized often. as a standard, an earth ground is about impossible..a nameless Phoenix city inspector explained that one.

you still have to comply to code though...so everything is of course bonded in series..earth-water-gas-steel structure-service/panel-branch circuits-devices/ equipment

 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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It wasn't, I was reffering to the service neutral coming from the pole that connects to ur house.
out here most of us now have underground feeds. the conductors (phase A, B, and N are all insulated.)

the old overheads do have an open neutral..according to the (national electrical code) N.E.C., that is allowable...but you also ahve to realize that the utility companies follow a variation of the N.E.C. too. dang, so does the military for that matter...they have "the way that works in the field is fine for our buildings" way. try workin on base and every room has more code violations than a hooker on discount day...


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here in Arizona, and any other arrid desert, you can drive as many 5/8" x 10ft ground rods that you can handle. it is TOO DRY for a proper earth ground unless you locate them in the lawn or irrigation area that is moisturized often. as a standard, an earth ground is about impossible..a nameless Phoenix city inspector explained that one.

you still have to comply to code though...so everything is of course bonded in series..earth-water-gas-steel structure-service/panel-branch circuits-devices/ equipment


in one of the magazines we get at work for the military, you guys in should know what I'm talking about 'PS magazine' actualy states to have a water buffalo near by a generator to moisten the ground for the grounding rod(s)

of cource my test equipment in Bosnia was on a one coke a week diet. pour that over the grounding rod and things were good
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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really, in Bosnia?? figured it would be a wetter climate there...who knew!?!?

Drew what did ya think of the Bosnians, Croats, and Serbs? I had a chance to work with a Serb many years ago who got caught up that fn war over there. he has more breaks in his body than you can count. he was butt beat with rifles, kicked, dragged, beat on by fists, and more...works his butt off here..worked to raise funds to move his remianing family here too!

 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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taping the receptacles and switches is really only necassary when dealing with live power. if its off, the connections are properly "torqued", and you did NOT terminate with stranded wire, then tape is not needed.
back to stranded, you MUST terminate stranded conductors with either a crimp on terminal, or a compression terminal (set screw with 2 pressure plates where the wire slips between). you are not allowed to terminate stranded around a screw terminal. this causes frays that can short to the box, adjacent device, or service person working on it.
You guy's use STRANDED wire for your runs ??
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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I worked with the bosnians, croats and serbs. . .the bosnians were way cool and would do just about anything for us, the croats were pretty cool but I didnt work around them too much, the serbs I ran into were cool, however they had quite a few that were stuck-up.

the base camp I was at was in the northern part of the country near the croatian boarder about 3 miles from a town called Brcko (pronounced Burchko) we were in a drier part of the country, and the grounding rod for my shop van was run through concrete inside the building I worked out of so things remained very dry.

I enjoyed my time out there and would love to go back, however the other half doesnt want me to go overseas right now since we have a crumb snatcher on the way any day now.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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You guy's use STRANDED wire for your runs ??
my last employer had us use #10 thhn strin all runs for certain customers.

stranded is more $ than solid. #10 straned pulls 200ft easier than solid for sure!!!

I stick to solid for shorter runs, and stranded for equipment connections..especially if it vibrates at all....motors, a/c, evaps, compressors, etc...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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.............since we have a crumb snatcher on the way any day now.
oh thats funny!!!!

"crumb snatcher"..


CONGRATS to you and yours on the "crumb snatcher"

if ya need someone to baby sit, I have 4 that I can send that way!! Ill even let em stay 6 months till things settle back in for yaz
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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we already have the covered. . .her mother has always said she would never have any grand kids. . .she's bought more stuff for the little guy(actualy big right now. . .estimated weight is right at 8lbs) than we have
 
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