for you contractors and inspectors a like..
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a huge problem I see is, I can't believe someone actually put their initials on that work. That obviously was never inspected. If it was... oh my ! The fact the panel was attempted to be labeled though could mean it was ?
Is that a piece of romex ties to the ground also ? So, are you there to fix all that or inspect it ?
Is that a piece of romex ties to the ground also ? So, are you there to fix all that or inspect it ?
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we found the problem while installing 2/3 romex to the new remote garage across the other side of this monster house..
Thanks to Sharkys suggestion, we straightened out the grounds (which happen to be the gas bond
) in the wall and put a split bolt over them. the owner is gonna see if the home warranty will fix it. as for the big blue in the panel, I relocated the 50/2 a few spaces down to eliminate the need for the "extension" ...
if you look at the pic of the panel door, you will see the GREEN tag where the city signed off. this munincipality did have, at one time, great inspectors....
this "quality" by A QUALITY ELECTRIC here in Phoenix shows why these houses are built so fast and with cheap..south of the boarder cheap..labor....the drop down attic ladder in the garage makes you climb towards the outter eve when you should be climbing towards the center of the house.. [:@]
Thanks to Sharkys suggestion, we straightened out the grounds (which happen to be the gas bond
) in the wall and put a split bolt over them. the owner is gonna see if the home warranty will fix it. as for the big blue in the panel, I relocated the 50/2 a few spaces down to eliminate the need for the "extension" ...
if you look at the pic of the panel door, you will see the GREEN tag where the city signed off. this munincipality did have, at one time, great inspectors....
this "quality" by A QUALITY ELECTRIC here in Phoenix shows why these houses are built so fast and with cheap..south of the boarder cheap..labor....the drop down attic ladder in the garage makes you climb towards the outter eve when you should be climbing towards the center of the house.. [:@]
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The circuit breaker should be "IN THE HOUSE"... Not on it....
The circuit breaker should be "IN THE HOUSE"... Not on it....
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I have never seen anyone attach the main ground wire from the service box to a natural gas pipe. All I can say to that is, Stupid is as Stupid does. Back in 1994 when I wanted to run power from the main box to a new sub service box for the addition to the house they told me I had to attach the sub panel ground wire one of two ways. I had to either put a bar in to the foundation footings before it was poured (also the ground bar had to be inspected and approved before the cement was poured) or drive a bar 12 feet in to the ground so that the sub box and house was grounded properly. Also I can’t believe someone used the Blue wire nut in the service box to extend the wire to the breaker because for some reason it was too short to reach the breaker.
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I have never seen anyone attach the main ground wire from the service box to a natural gas pipe. All I can say to that is, Stupid is as Stupid does. Back in 1994 when I wanted to run power from the main box to a new sub service box for the addition to the house they told me I had to attach the sub panel ground wire one of two ways. I had to either put a bar in to the foundation footings before it was poured (also the ground bar had to be inspected and approved before the cement was poured) or drive a bar 12 feet in to the ground so that the sub box and house was grounded properly. Also I can’t believe someone used the Blue wire nut in the service box to extend the wire to the breaker because for some reason it was too short to reach the breaker.
I have never seen anyone attach the main ground wire from the service box to a natural gas pipe. All I can say to that is, Stupid is as Stupid does. Back in 1994 when I wanted to run power from the main box to a new sub service box for the addition to the house they told me I had to attach the sub panel ground wire one of two ways. I had to either put a bar in to the foundation footings before it was poured (also the ground bar had to be inspected and approved before the cement was poured) or drive a bar 12 feet in to the ground so that the sub box and house was grounded properly. Also I can’t believe someone used the Blue wire nut in the service box to extend the wire to the breaker because for some reason it was too short to reach the breaker.
I'm assume these guys "got" their ground from the gas pipe ? Yeah, that's pretty bad !
The ground rods only come in 8ft lengths ( here anyway ) and you were right, it does need to be driven in and the only other option is horizonally in a ditch deeper than 2ft. I believe.