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Old 10-01-2007 | 09:30 PM
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how hard are they to instal with minimal mechanic skills?
 
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Old 10-01-2007 | 09:47 PM
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well for me, i dont like to rush installing things, i got my exhaust on fine, my edge with attitude installed ok, my AFE in fine, and thats all the work I have done on diesels. the FASS seems pretty simple as far as skills, but time consuming. I will take all tomarrow afternoon to install it, but that is just me, i like to take mytime, someone with alot of skill could prob knock it out in 2 hours or soo..

 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 01:54 AM
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is the fass a in tank electric? or mechanical. i thought i had mechanical due to past failures with previous owner, i finally opened my hood and found the pump is in the tank. it appears to have some adapterishadded on alloy plate that the feed line goes through near the bottom of the filter housing. does anyone know if that is stock? is that part of the upgrade the dealer is doing to go electric? am i wasting my time worrying about my lift pump failing? am i as stupid as i sound?
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 02:29 AM
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The fass is an external electric pump. I was able to put my pump on in a little over 2hrs. Would have taken maybe and hour if I were to mount the pump where the instructions said to and didn't fab up a bracket. As for your fuel setup, take a pic so we can see what your talking about. I haven't seen what the dealers are doing and am curious as to what your setup looks like.
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 02:32 AM
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Mopar dosen't sell the block mounted lift pump anymore but you can find it at places like Autozone or Blue Ridge Deisel for $150 . Mopar sells the in tank conversion for around $400 plus installation.
The frame mounted pump kit is the easiest way to go both for plumbing and wiring.
For now have a buddy open the water drain on the bottom of the filter as you turn the key on, see if the pump spits any fuel out. The nasty thing about this is when the lift pump goes the truck will run on the suction generated by the injection pump but it will overheat. The lift pump supplies enough fuel to cool and lubricate the injector pump. One of Mopar's better ideas ... NOT!!
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Sounds like you have the conversion from Mopar if your pump is mounted in the tank and not behind the filter housing on the block. If so you have nothing to worry about unless the in tank pump are prone to failure.
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 08:59 AM
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The in-tank pump sucks. I was getting as low as 2 PSI when towing and never saw double digit readings on the PSI, even when idling. I put a Walbro pump and regulator on mine, much cheaper than a FASS, left the in-tank pump, in the tank as a backup pump.

45 PSI is too much pressure. You're gonna start blowing fuel out of the banjo fittings and damaging other stuff. I found this out the hard way when I tried to skip purchasing the regulator to save some $$$.

Anyway that you look at it, the cost of a Walbro kit or FASS is a lot cheaper than the damage that can occur if the lift pump fails. And it is only a matter of time before the stock pump wears out.
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 09:39 AM
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Ill let you know what my PSI is at around 6 this afternoon
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 12:19 PM
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where did you get your walbro and regulator and how much and how hard was it to instal? Thanks
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 02:38 PM
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I got the Walbro from www.apeusa.com. I used AN fittings and stainless steel hose and hard line on my fuel lines so I had to go with a hefty regulator. I got it at www.tennesseespeedsport.com. Jegs has a better deal on them but I was in a bind and needed it in a hurry. You can put what ever type of fittings you want on the pump and regulator.

Here is the post that I did on my dual lift pump project. It did not turn out as I had hopped, because I ran out of time and money (still spent less than a FASS). After next weekend, ny shooting season is over and I am putting the CTD in the garage and finish this thing the way I entended to do. I want dual pumps on an electric fail over circuit. I have the electronics figured out now.

http://www.cowboyplayground.com/public/dp.htm
 
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Old 10-02-2007 | 03:27 PM
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Which regulator did you end up using? I can see it in the picture, but I can't find it in jegs catalog.
 



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