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Question about Biodiesel
#101
Bought in Arkansas, Tenn and Ohio- last yr while driving cross country. Motor ran quieter,When I returned home performed an oil change - no real noticiable difference, but lab tesing was not involved LOL,Checked fuel filter and changed it- no issues, ave mpg was at 20-22, using my smarty jr programmer in fuel management mode. about 1 mpg better than reg diesel
Those are my thoughts- hard to find it here in so,tx
Jeff
Those are my thoughts- hard to find it here in so,tx
Jeff
#103
[QUOTE=HDDoug2500;2340754] BD does lubricate/clean/clog filters more. This can be a +/- in different situations.QUOTE]
Hey - if I have to throw 5 filters at my truck over a course of 1 month at a cost of $7.50 each, to save over $100 each time I fill up; i'm game. Clogged filters means Bio is cleaning out the tank. Clean tank, clean lines = clean pump*clean injectors = happy cummins.
Hey - if I have to throw 5 filters at my truck over a course of 1 month at a cost of $7.50 each, to save over $100 each time I fill up; i'm game. Clogged filters means Bio is cleaning out the tank. Clean tank, clean lines = clean pump*clean injectors = happy cummins.
#104
Kevin, Ditto to that!
Not sure how you are able to make bio for .42, the least expensive I have made it is .65. Guess its what part of the country your in with respect to Methanol and caustics.
I still save $7500 annually on fuel.
Been running bio and WVO/Bio blends for 7 yrs in same truck.
Not sure how you are able to make bio for .42, the least expensive I have made it is .65. Guess its what part of the country your in with respect to Methanol and caustics.
I still save $7500 annually on fuel.
Been running bio and WVO/Bio blends for 7 yrs in same truck.
Free WVO = $0.00
2lbs LYE = $1.98
Methanol = $15.84 (8 gallons)
$17.82 Per 40 gallons / $.44 Per Gallon.
This year I am recovering methanol as well. I will be starting my production here in MN this next week. Once I start producing and recovering my methanol, I expect to have it down to $.28 Per Gallon (Minus few hours of power)
#105
Good for you Kevin, more power to ya for that price. Wish it was easier to get free WVO or close to the .25 I was paying. S$#t even at .50 I WISH.
Heres my sad reality in the NorthEastern US.
Can't get enough oil unless we pay .75 to $1.00/Gallon
Methanol is $3.00/Gallon in bulk.
KOH $2.50/# bagged.
400G batch:
KOH (6.5#) $16.00
MeOH 80G $240
WVO $300
Time. Filter,etc. ? $50
Electicity and fuel to run pump and boiler (heat it) $10est.
$600+- for a 400G batch = $1.50/Gallon.
Nominal daytime temps above 45F I can do a batch in 6 hrs including washing, not including drying. But, drying happens on its own.
I'll still take that any day of the week though.
Dfresh,
I ran the '02 with the HO engine and it RUNS fine, its the damned Bosch VP44 with all its electrical brains BS that makes this truck die all the time. I have replaced the IP on my truck THREE times from 70K to 175K . It is just too damned tempermental.
It died on straight diesel after only 1 yr NO bio in it.
I would look at a better made IP if I were you. Not sure what's in the '03 and newer ones.
One thing I can tell you from my experience. Don't use the old saying 10micron. Always get your finished product down to 5 or less.
Heres my sad reality in the NorthEastern US.
Can't get enough oil unless we pay .75 to $1.00/Gallon
Methanol is $3.00/Gallon in bulk.
KOH $2.50/# bagged.
400G batch:
KOH (6.5#) $16.00
MeOH 80G $240
WVO $300
Time. Filter,etc. ? $50
Electicity and fuel to run pump and boiler (heat it) $10est.
$600+- for a 400G batch = $1.50/Gallon.
Nominal daytime temps above 45F I can do a batch in 6 hrs including washing, not including drying. But, drying happens on its own.
I'll still take that any day of the week though.
Dfresh,
I ran the '02 with the HO engine and it RUNS fine, its the damned Bosch VP44 with all its electrical brains BS that makes this truck die all the time. I have replaced the IP on my truck THREE times from 70K to 175K . It is just too damned tempermental.
It died on straight diesel after only 1 yr NO bio in it.
I would look at a better made IP if I were you. Not sure what's in the '03 and newer ones.
One thing I can tell you from my experience. Don't use the old saying 10micron. Always get your finished product down to 5 or less.
#106
Bio
I used NaOH myself. It's cheaper and I can use less. Win-win. I know KOH can work better if you have low quanity oil and it's easier to work with but I look at both prices and think to myself; "I'm out to save money" If it takes 5 minutes longer to mix the Lye into the Meth - oh well.
At that price I didn't figure Electric cost. I run my pump / heater for about 2 hours. That is not including warm up time. That doesn't include warm time and drying time.
Bottom line is I prob spend a little more but I don't noticed a difference in the $$ bill when I start making it so in a monthly time of making bio, my bill doesn't even raise $10.
I suppose for the people that want to save every cent they could build some solar panels with some batteries to run the pump and heater along with wind towers. Can anybody say over board?
I enjoy making it. I pitty people at the pumps all summer long until I fall in line at the pumps again next winter.
I normally start the pump and heater and go out and mow the lawn (big lawn).
I pull up and check the temp and go back to mowing. When it's high enough I stop and mix my lye and meth together, inject it, turn the heater off and go back to mowing. I keep checking on it and turn the heater off and on to keep temp. When I get done mowing, I check it and if its done I add my 5% prewash and go in the house and clean up.
I come back out after 15 minutes and shut the system off over night.
So I don't waste much time doing it. Maybe a total time of 15 minutes for a batch of 40 or 80. I have 6 places around here calling me to come pick up oil.
At that price I didn't figure Electric cost. I run my pump / heater for about 2 hours. That is not including warm up time. That doesn't include warm time and drying time.
Bottom line is I prob spend a little more but I don't noticed a difference in the $$ bill when I start making it so in a monthly time of making bio, my bill doesn't even raise $10.
I suppose for the people that want to save every cent they could build some solar panels with some batteries to run the pump and heater along with wind towers. Can anybody say over board?
I enjoy making it. I pitty people at the pumps all summer long until I fall in line at the pumps again next winter.
I normally start the pump and heater and go out and mow the lawn (big lawn).
I pull up and check the temp and go back to mowing. When it's high enough I stop and mix my lye and meth together, inject it, turn the heater off and go back to mowing. I keep checking on it and turn the heater off and on to keep temp. When I get done mowing, I check it and if its done I add my 5% prewash and go in the house and clean up.
I come back out after 15 minutes and shut the system off over night.
So I don't waste much time doing it. Maybe a total time of 15 minutes for a batch of 40 or 80. I have 6 places around here calling me to come pick up oil.
#107
#108
I know this is an old thread but this is absolutely wrong. They put anything the could in multi fuel engines not diesels. You go putting gas in your diesel and you will have problems. The multi-fuel engines are capable of running on almost any liquid that is flamable but the engine needs to be adjusted for the fuel. It is not as simple as just pour stuff in the tank. But almost that simple. But do not try that with a diesel engine unless you like repair bills.
#109
Ok so I traded my 01 dura max that I burned my own home made diesel from wvo. Used it only from may to oct ran great. Now I have a 2012 Cummings 1200 miles an was wondering if its good to burn or should I sell my machine an stockpile? Also just want to do a program change which are the best?
#110