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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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triton dont take it that way GFB never tough about upseting u,u blew ur engine in a path to find power and ur prolly the higest HP-TQ here
so this way we can try to reach those lvl whitout doing the same cuz u share ur knowledge whit us.

about why u dont see this intake on every racer its just because it brand new,there arent listed on their web site yet....
im not sure if it will do wonder but i was considering fabbing an sheetmetal one whit Alu so now i found this i dunno yet...

about pressurizing air waiting to enter the engine its true but what do TRITON think about head porting? big waste of cash and time or nice thing to do to get more air
into engine when turbo is not spooling quick enough?

and beside a cam what else i can do to improve low end power???

i got 3.55s and 35' so maybe 4.10s ???...
im turning 1500rpm at 60mph and if i run this speed its sluggish,75mph and its way better,turbo is spooled and rpm higher so plenty of power...
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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I know aftermarket intake horns do nothing for power, but I would bet money that a real intake manifold such as the one posted would help. I wasn't putting you down for toasting your motor, I was just guessing that it was 5 or 6 that let go, as it is common knowledge that 5 and 6 run hotter due to less air. That behemoth cast manifold would help more evenly distribute the intake charge and provide a smoother transition.

Woli--pressurized air acts a lot like a liquid. It has friction and doesn't like to make sharp bends. The gain in head/valve work, porting, and smoothing the overall path provides an easier path of flow. You won't have to run 50psi go get XXXcfm of airflow. If you can push just as much air with less psi, then you win on all accounts. Less intake pressure (turbo operates more efficiently), less cylinder pressure (keep your headgasket happy), less drive pressure, and lower EGTs. Forced induction engines love headwork.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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gfb that was i tough,that why i want doing full port on my head so i need to remove the stock intake manifold whitch is tied to the head
so i need a fabbed one or a cast one like this one as the only available
 
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Also, woli, 4.10s would give you a couple hundred rpms to help out. If you tow heavy or really want to keep that turbo in the sweet spot get some 4.30s.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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not that i am expierenced in it but i would have to agree with triton. the hole intake is pressurized so a sharp corner wont do anything because there is 40 psi(depends on truck and stuff) of boost waiting to get in the engine.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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when there is 40psi its rather true minimal gain will be seen but when turbo is not spooled what do ya think?
Im not spending all my time whit 40psi of boost,in traffic almost no boost so this is where i want to gain power in low rpm
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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I'm done arguing on this topic. Airflow is NOT measured in psi. It's measured in volume (cfm, lb/hr, etc.). The best thing you can do to a forced induction engine is drop your pressure while increasing flow volume. Educate yourself folks. Here's a good start.






 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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I'm guessing GFB stand for "Gale F. Banks " LOL ! You better start reading some book on diesel turbo charged engines. You're correct that air flow is measured in volume but, the pressure behind that flow is measured in psi.

Go ahead an buy all the Banks stuff you want.... it will never amount to the hp that can be had with different compinents :-)

This is a real custom intake manifold....




 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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wtf whit ya gfb???
since when we are becoming arrogant like this?
i think we all know that positive pressure is mesured in PSI and the volume or air that pass trough a fixed orifice by a period is cfm
since cfm is calculated whit atmospheric pressure raising the psi whit a charger of any sort increase the cfm we can say its prolly more effective on naturally aspirated engine but it yield benefit enven in forced induction too.

 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: woligator

wtf whit ya gfb???
since when we are becoming arrogant like this?
NOW you've ppissed him off !!



 
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