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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Ok, here I go dreaming again ( as the wife calls it )
I am think about getting rid of my 02 CTD and going all the way, 3500 6 speed, duals , mega cab, ect, ect. any ideas or advice on this move.
I think I would probably do these things as soon as I drive it off the lot.
FASS, Dualy 5" , AFE cold air intake, Gauges,Edge ???, espar pre heater ( love my one on my 02), pac brake ( or can you get a REAL JAKE on them now ) and most important a decent clutch.
Is there anything I should be aware of on these new ones??

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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I would try and grab an 06 as soon as you can. .. 07's are supposed to have the new 6.7 in them and have a pant load of new emissions crap on them (read as lower power and lower fuel mileage)

sounds like a good move if your wanting to update your rig to a monster of a truck, but one thing I would add to that list is a overdrive gear set. you would thank me in the long run. my 6spd with 4.10's runs 2300rpm at 70mph the G56 with 3.73's runs the same RPM. I need one to lower my RPM's.

jake brakes are not available on these small engines, exhaust brakes(pac brake) is the only thing you can get on it. if your gunna put a FASS unit on it, you will need to drop the tank and remove the stock in-tank pump. it is the same carter pump that loves to die and apparently has the same issues being in the tank or straped to the fuel filter.

I cannot comment on the clutch on the G56's. I know the stock NV5600 isnt all that bad. but in terms of power adders, TST all the way, or you can wait for the 3rd gen smarty to come out. . .when ever it does[:@]
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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The new 6.7L will have a "dynamic" turbo.
An exhaust brake will be a factory option that includes little more than an upgraded PCM and a switch.
This new turbo will be able to act both as a turbo and the exhaust brake.

The 6.7 will not be available until Jan '07. So there will still be 5.9L available in '07.

Also the 6.7 will be coupled to a 6 speed AUTOMATIC (optional) The G56 will still be standard.

With the new engine don't plan on Edge having anything available for a while.
And people have been telling me they arent' happy with what the Edge does on thier 600/610 diesel compared to the older common rail systems ('03-'04)
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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phil. . .I realy wouldnt call it 'dynamic'. it is a VGT (Variable Geometry Turbo) and is able to create quicker boost at lower RPM's. the holset/cummins design is very innovative, user friendly, and has very few parts as opposed to other VGT's Ive seen that have been computer controlled and stop working after 10K miles or so due to carbon buildup.

I was wondering if the same thing was on the line as it has been in the past where major engine changes came in half years, the 24 valves came in 98.5, the HPCR came in 03, the 600's came in 04.5, and now the 6.7's will come in 07.5. and from what I heard that AISAN 68RE auto is supposed to be pretty good. . .but then right now two more gears out of the 48RE is a vast improvement.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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I used "dynamic" in quotes because I knew it wasn't right.
But couldn't think of the proper term.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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What emissions is on the 07 that is holding it back? Is it just the exhaust or is the tuning of the motor?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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there is going to be an EGR valve(BAAAAD) and it will also have a particulate filter that if you do not use ULSD there will be a $5000 bill comeing your way
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Well, I have been looking for my 06 and I can't find any with the options that I want in a 6 speed, so any idea how good the 4 speed auto is ???
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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You could still order an '07... early builds will not have the new emissions/engine package.

I read something about that particulate filter... Sounds like its going to be a PITA.
I will have to re-read that to get all the facts right, but its something like this...
At a given percent of use an indicator light comes on.
Then at a higher percent use, indicator starts to flash/beep (I think)
Then as a last resort at near full flow restriction, the ECM cuts engine power to force the customer to replace filter.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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in stock form with a stock engine it performs pretty well. put 50 more horse through it and it will hold, go to 75 more and you'll slip clutches and the torque converter.
 
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