Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
#1
Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
Hello everyone.. I'm just curious, so I'll ask. Let me start by saying this is in no way a bashing thread. I enjoy most allperformance vehicles. I'm just wondering why a lot of the buyers of SRT-10's don't go for diesels? The two most common reasons I see are the lack of warranty on a modified diesel, and people are unaware of the performance (with economy) easily attained by todays diesels.
#2
RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
ORIGINAL: Morse
Hello everyone.. I'm just curious, so I'll ask. Let me start by saying this is in no way a bashing thread. I enjoy most allperformance vehicles. I'm just wondering why a lot of the buyers of SRT-10's don't go for diesels? The two most common reasons I see are the lack of warranty on a modified diesel, and people are unaware of the performance (with economy) easily attained by todays diesels.
Hello everyone.. I'm just curious, so I'll ask. Let me start by saying this is in no way a bashing thread. I enjoy most allperformance vehicles. I'm just wondering why a lot of the buyers of SRT-10's don't go for diesels? The two most common reasons I see are the lack of warranty on a modified diesel, and people are unaware of the performance (with economy) easily attained by todays diesels.
#3
RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
I do agree.. An SRT 10 is faster out of the box, not to mention it also looks better. I also think it would be cool to have a 12 second truck with a warranty. I may be wrong here, but the SRT-10 is priced quite a bit more than the normal diesel. For $3500, my 05 4x4 CC dually ran 13.0's at 103 mph and pulled very heavy trailers. That was at 8,040 pounds. With that setup, average mileage was around 17 to 18.My latest toy is an 06 2500 that weighs in at 6,130 pounds. I rana similarsetup that was on the dually for a while, and ranconsistant low 12's in the quarter (12.2-12.3) with mileage in the mid 20's. I've since gotten more radical with it. My goal is 10.99 on dieselbefore I spray it. My mileage has now dropped to 19 on the interstate. I'm wanting to meet my goal in the next couple weeks, so I can install my smaller injectors to get my mileage back.Next season, I'll throw the large ones back in..
I know very little about theSRT-10.What's the bestmileage expected? I raced a guy at Bradenton Motorsports Park that is a normal racer. He'sgreat at driving"traction limited" vehicles.He knocked off a 12.7with what he said was a completely stock truck. I was impressed. Then there was a guy there with a stock crew cab auto that was running mid 14's. He was pretty disappointed.
I know very little about theSRT-10.What's the bestmileage expected? I raced a guy at Bradenton Motorsports Park that is a normal racer. He'sgreat at driving"traction limited" vehicles.He knocked off a 12.7with what he said was a completely stock truck. I was impressed. Then there was a guy there with a stock crew cab auto that was running mid 14's. He was pretty disappointed.
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#5
RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
ORIGINAL: Morse
I do agree.. An SRT 10 is faster out of the box, not to mention it also looks better. I also think it would be cool to have a 12 second truck with a warranty. I may be wrong here, but the SRT-10 is priced quite a bit more than the normal diesel. For $3500, my 05 4x4 CC dually ran 13.0's at 103 mph and pulled very heavy trailers. That was at 8,040 pounds. With that setup, average mileage was around 17 to 18.My latest toy is an 06 2500 that weighs in at 6,130 pounds. I rana similarsetup that was on the dually for a while, and ranconsistant low 12's in the quarter (12.2-12.3) with mileage in the mid 20's. I've since gotten more radical with it. My goal is 10.99 on dieselbefore I spray it. My mileage has now dropped to 19 on the interstate. I'm wanting to meet my goal in the next couple weeks, so I can install my smaller injectors to get my mileage back.Next season, I'll throw the large ones back in..
I know very little about theSRT-10.What's the bestmileage expected? I raced a guy at Bradenton Motorsports Park that is a normal racer. He'sgreat at driving"traction limited" vehicles.He knocked off a 12.7with what he said was a completely stock truck. I was impressed. Then there was a guy there with a stock crew cab auto that was running mid 14's. He was pretty disappointed.
I do agree.. An SRT 10 is faster out of the box, not to mention it also looks better. I also think it would be cool to have a 12 second truck with a warranty. I may be wrong here, but the SRT-10 is priced quite a bit more than the normal diesel. For $3500, my 05 4x4 CC dually ran 13.0's at 103 mph and pulled very heavy trailers. That was at 8,040 pounds. With that setup, average mileage was around 17 to 18.My latest toy is an 06 2500 that weighs in at 6,130 pounds. I rana similarsetup that was on the dually for a while, and ranconsistant low 12's in the quarter (12.2-12.3) with mileage in the mid 20's. I've since gotten more radical with it. My goal is 10.99 on dieselbefore I spray it. My mileage has now dropped to 19 on the interstate. I'm wanting to meet my goal in the next couple weeks, so I can install my smaller injectors to get my mileage back.Next season, I'll throw the large ones back in..
I know very little about theSRT-10.What's the bestmileage expected? I raced a guy at Bradenton Motorsports Park that is a normal racer. He'sgreat at driving"traction limited" vehicles.He knocked off a 12.7with what he said was a completely stock truck. I was impressed. Then there was a guy there with a stock crew cab auto that was running mid 14's. He was pretty disappointed.
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RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
To start with, always do your research before you say no way.. It's best to ask questions and learn.
Here's what it takes to make an 04.5and up2wd standard cab run low 12's, and the pricesyou can expectpay for new or near new parts..
-Industrial Injection turbo (62-14) $950 plus shipping new on ebay
-DDP injector tips $400 (can be as much as twice this new)
-Bully Dog Crazy Larry programmer $300 on ebay
-TS Ramifier or MP8 $150 on ebay (takes care of boost fooling and can add pressure)
-Suncoast converter $1,150
-Transgo shift kit $100
-Walker straight through muffler and installation $140
Granted, these are prices that you have to look for, yet parts are readily available on forums and ebay. The turbos have went up drasticly the last couple years, yet used are plentiful.
My 06has a race weight of 6130 pounds, which is a lightweight in diesels. It's a standard cab short bed. I also shortened the frame 22' when it had 2,000 miles on it. I wanted a new diesel sport truck, so I had to make it myself..I do now have around $6,000 in my trans. I have went with many more parts such as dual injection pumps, compound turbos, head studs, larger injectors, injector bodies, intercooler, etc, inorder to get closer to my 10.99 goal on diesel only daily driver. The cummins needs no internal engine or head work to make those power levels. Studs are all that's needed. Last night, Idrove itto Bradenton Motorsports Park and ran 11.61at 120.5on 20' radials. Not drag radials.Someone mentioned $15,000 invested..It can easily soak up that kind of money and much more quickly when you want to go sub 12's. Also, heavier trucks and 4x4's have to do more extensive mods to start with to get in the lower 12's and faster. Does a diesel have to be or look likea work truck? No.. Can a 2wd standard cab diesel run low 12's for less than $3500 and achieve better than stockfuel mileage? Yes.. Just for the record,I speak ofDodge diesels.. Thechevy with it's duramax dieselcan achieve high 12's in the quarter with a shift kit, torque converter, and a program. They startspitting rodswhen the power gets in the 600's at the wheels. The stock cumminshas started coming apart in the 1100 to 1200 rwhp range..
Here's what it takes to make an 04.5and up2wd standard cab run low 12's, and the pricesyou can expectpay for new or near new parts..
-Industrial Injection turbo (62-14) $950 plus shipping new on ebay
-DDP injector tips $400 (can be as much as twice this new)
-Bully Dog Crazy Larry programmer $300 on ebay
-TS Ramifier or MP8 $150 on ebay (takes care of boost fooling and can add pressure)
-Suncoast converter $1,150
-Transgo shift kit $100
-Walker straight through muffler and installation $140
Granted, these are prices that you have to look for, yet parts are readily available on forums and ebay. The turbos have went up drasticly the last couple years, yet used are plentiful.
My 06has a race weight of 6130 pounds, which is a lightweight in diesels. It's a standard cab short bed. I also shortened the frame 22' when it had 2,000 miles on it. I wanted a new diesel sport truck, so I had to make it myself..I do now have around $6,000 in my trans. I have went with many more parts such as dual injection pumps, compound turbos, head studs, larger injectors, injector bodies, intercooler, etc, inorder to get closer to my 10.99 goal on diesel only daily driver. The cummins needs no internal engine or head work to make those power levels. Studs are all that's needed. Last night, Idrove itto Bradenton Motorsports Park and ran 11.61at 120.5on 20' radials. Not drag radials.Someone mentioned $15,000 invested..It can easily soak up that kind of money and much more quickly when you want to go sub 12's. Also, heavier trucks and 4x4's have to do more extensive mods to start with to get in the lower 12's and faster. Does a diesel have to be or look likea work truck? No.. Can a 2wd standard cab diesel run low 12's for less than $3500 and achieve better than stockfuel mileage? Yes.. Just for the record,I speak ofDodge diesels.. Thechevy with it's duramax dieselcan achieve high 12's in the quarter with a shift kit, torque converter, and a program. They startspitting rodswhen the power gets in the 600's at the wheels. The stock cumminshas started coming apart in the 1100 to 1200 rwhp range..
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#8
RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
I just want to remind everyone that this isn't any type of bashing thread. This is meant for people with similar interests to learn. Going quick in a new truck is a lot of fun, no matter what it's powered by. Everyone has pride in their vehicles, yet try to keep an open mind. People were skeptical aboutrunning low 12's for less than
$3500. Are prices much higher for performance parts for the SRT 10?
$3500. Are prices much higher for performance parts for the SRT 10?
#9
RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
Well with a deisel in a short bed regular cab form then 12's with $3500 is very viable but I was thinking QC. Cause about 7 out of 10 deisel trucks are QC's. For a fast deisel owner on this site go to the diesel part and look up triton he has invested alot of dough into his mega cab is pushing over 700HP and run's mid 12's with 37" tires . And there is nothing better then seeing a 7000pound QC 4X4 blowing black smoke down the 1320!
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RE: Why buy an SRT-10 over a diesel?
ORIGINAL: Morse
I just want to remind everyone that this isn't any type of bashing thread. This is meant for people with similar interests to learn. Going quick in a new truck is a lot of fun, no matter what it's powered by. Everyone has pride in their vehicles, yet try to keep an open mind. People were skeptical aboutrunning low 12's for less than
$3500. Are prices much higher for performance parts for the SRT 10?
I just want to remind everyone that this isn't any type of bashing thread. This is meant for people with similar interests to learn. Going quick in a new truck is a lot of fun, no matter what it's powered by. Everyone has pride in their vehicles, yet try to keep an open mind. People were skeptical aboutrunning low 12's for less than
$3500. Are prices much higher for performance parts for the SRT 10?
prices are higher. Like real good headers will run you $1,500, and i think that 94rt10ohio
paid more then that for his. They are some bad A$$ headers.