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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Thanks for the response and advice. I don't have a hair dryer,but i think my buddy has a heat gun that he would let me use. Will try that tomorrow and i'll keep you posted on my status.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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So I used a heat gun at 600 degrees for 10 minutes on the ecm and it fired right up. So I guess that means I must replace it. Ugh,thing costs $240. Looks like i'll be taking the bus for a bit,but at least I know what to do now.
Much thanks for the help,really appreciate it. My best guess before posting here was that a ghost was haunting my ignition system.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by greymatter
So I used a heat gun at 600 degrees for 10 minutes on the ecm and it fired right up.
A little bit longer and you would've been using "fired" in a literal sense. Hitting it with 600 degrees for 10 minutes is way beyond the safety margin of electronic components. A 100 degrees for a few minutes is usually enough.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Uhh,so simple hair dryers run at 1500 to 2000 watts at a minimum of 200 degrees. Additionally,200 degrees (adjustments were in 100 degree increments and maxed at 1200 degrees) was the minimum setting on that particular model of heat gun i used,and that felt like a cool breeze on my hand(especially outside after it had just rained).A setting of 600 degrees on a heat gun is not like i put the ecm (which also had a plastic cover over it that looked unremovable) in a 600 degree oven.The nozzle disperses quite a bit of the heat as well as the fact that i did not just concentrate it on only one spot. I appreciate the advice you have shared in this,but i didn't just fire up a rose bud torch from an oxygen acetylene set up and put it directly on my ecm.I used a temperature controlled heat gun that i felt the heat on my hand (at a distance because i don't like to be "fired" in a literal sense)before applying it towards the electronic control module.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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I have dodge 1994 5.2 and i have the exact same problem. i started it and it stalled out and just died. It cranks but no spark. I have replaced everything i can think of: Ignition coil, Distributor(cam sensor, cap), Crank Shaft sensor, PCM. Here's what i do know...at the coil, im reciving 12v at ignition on for 3 sec. then i get nothing at crank...both cam & crank position sensors are getting power to them and returning voltage from them. I do not know what else to do. Please help.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Pulled the PCM harness, found good grounds at pins 11 and 12, 12V at pin 3 but 0V at pin 9 which is the ignition feed. I didn't have time today to trace the wire back all the way but it does work it's way into a large bundle that has been chafing against the battery tray. Tomorrow I open that up and try to find my culprit. Keep ya posted!
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where are you getting the pin location and voltages? Is this in the Dodge repair manual? I have yet to find any info about diagnosing the PCM and the harness.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 01:09 AM
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my 91 d250 did the same exact thing i put a pump in the tank cause it felt like it just ran out of gas, still no start checked coil was good but no spark, so i put a $300 ecm in it and still no start so i hauled it to the local shop i guess it has whats called a halo ignition system it starts on very high voltage initally and then drop to a second system wich is lower voltage the primary pickup in the distibuter was fried cost me another $300 for distributer install but it did fix after throwing a ton of $$$ into it, i would possibly try a good used distributer make sure its for your make and model hope this mite help w.m.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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does anybody out there have a solid answer on this issue ?I have done this with my van 3 times over the last 6years replaced all the above .I heard for the 1st time that it could be the pcm/ecm is going bad.Why wouldn't an OBD reader pick up on that? Also how wise would it be to get a used one and have it flashed or programed for my van?.It sounds like this is a major defect.I don't want to sink a bunch of cash into a revolving door if u catch my drift...signed dazed and confused in seattle
 
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Old Oct 31, 2015 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Troy Stack
does anybody out there have a solid answer on this issue ?I have done this with my van 3 times over the last 6years replaced all the above .I heard for the 1st time that it could be the pcm/ecm is going bad.Why wouldn't an OBD reader pick up on that? Also how wise would it be to get a used one and have it flashed or programed for my van?.It sounds like this is a major defect.I don't want to sink a bunch of cash into a revolving door if u catch my drift...signed dazed and confused in seattle
A dealer style scanner would pick up on this.


A HF one wont.


I did notice when my PCM barfed, when I did the keydance, it would not show anything on the odometer.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2015 | 10:23 PM
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so I guess I will try the hair dryer trick and see if that will start it.if in fact that it does start can I drive it and will it continue to start as long as I don't let it sit for too long?? thanks for the info
 
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