How many splines does my torque converter have?
I am getting ready to rebuild my transmission and want to replace the torque converter as well. I looked to Advanced Auto because it's about 2 blocks away from my house.
The only concern I have is that the website says it has two different torque converters that can fit on my 93 Dodge Ram Van B250...both have two different spline counts. I attempted to call Advanced Auto to talk with someone who might be able to help but noone I was able to talk to knew more about what was going on than I did...and I don't know much.
Is there anyway to tell the number of splines my torque converter has prior to removing and counting them?
All info I can think of providing regarding the issue:
1993 Dodge Ram Van B250
318 V6
727 Torqueflite Transmission code on drivers side looks like PK52117696 1344 7015
Specs for the two converters:
A518, A618 Transmission; Lockup; 11" Diameter; 23 Splines
A500 Transmission; Lockup; 11" Diameter; 26 Splines
Up until this problem I had only known of the 24 and 19(i think) spline converters. What converter should I buy or should I just wait until Ive taken the existing one down? Any help would be much appreciated.
The only concern I have is that the website says it has two different torque converters that can fit on my 93 Dodge Ram Van B250...both have two different spline counts. I attempted to call Advanced Auto to talk with someone who might be able to help but noone I was able to talk to knew more about what was going on than I did...and I don't know much.
Is there anyway to tell the number of splines my torque converter has prior to removing and counting them?
All info I can think of providing regarding the issue:
1993 Dodge Ram Van B250
318 V6
727 Torqueflite Transmission code on drivers side looks like PK52117696 1344 7015
Specs for the two converters:
A518, A618 Transmission; Lockup; 11" Diameter; 23 Splines
A500 Transmission; Lockup; 11" Diameter; 26 Splines
Up until this problem I had only known of the 24 and 19(i think) spline converters. What converter should I buy or should I just wait until Ive taken the existing one down? Any help would be much appreciated.
I don't believe either of those converters will fit your tranny. The A500, A518, and A618 are overdrive versions of the 904 and 727 Torqueflite trannys. As far as I know, the V6 doesn't use an overdrive tranny.
(BTW, the V6 is a 3.9L engine, the 318 is a V8 5.2L engine.)
Autozone can special order the TC for you.
Dacco/Transmission Torque Converter
Price: $119.99
Core charge $20.00
Part Number: 853
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...326533_0_13116
Autozone can special order the TC for you.
Dacco/Transmission Torque Converter
Price: $119.99
Core charge $20.00
Part Number: 853
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...326533_0_13116
I ran into an issue after I dropped the transmission....the torque converter is welded to the flywheel. I've heard of this before but never saw it myself. Is this typical for this transmission? I haven't seen a replacement that comes with the flywheel. Pretty lost right now. Any help is, as always, appreciated.
Now why would someone go and do that? You need to be able to remove the torque converter in order to access the bolts holding the flywheel to the rear of the crankshaft.
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I doubt it. There is no established method to balance the result of this. At 5,000 rpm you would no doubt experience significant engine vibration.
This crank on this particular motor has a "hub pocket" that the torque converter fits snugly into. The factory recommends greasing the pocket during assembly otherwise the torque converter may stick during dissembly. Assuming the bolts were removed I imagine it is stuck.
The correct transmission removal sequence is: drain fluid, remove cooling lines and any electrical connectors, remove the inspection cover, remove the torque converter bolts ( rotating the engine as required ) and then remove the engine- transmission bolts and pull trans away. When the transmission breaks free, the torque converter must go with the transmission otherwise you risk seriously damaging the front pump and the torque converter shaft.
This crank on this particular motor has a "hub pocket" that the torque converter fits snugly into. The factory recommends greasing the pocket during assembly otherwise the torque converter may stick during dissembly. Assuming the bolts were removed I imagine it is stuck.
The correct transmission removal sequence is: drain fluid, remove cooling lines and any electrical connectors, remove the inspection cover, remove the torque converter bolts ( rotating the engine as required ) and then remove the engine- transmission bolts and pull trans away. When the transmission breaks free, the torque converter must go with the transmission otherwise you risk seriously damaging the front pump and the torque converter shaft.
Judging by these comments I have two options:
replace the unit as is and hope the torque converter isn't jacked
or
buy a torqueconverter and a flywheel
Anyone have any ideas on a good method to remove the front planetary gears from a mushrooming outputshaft? lol. Seems like every step I take towards completion of this rebuild theres another problem hiding in the shadows.
Hold the phone! I didn't pick up on this last night but let's make sure we're talking about the same thing here. The big ring gear for the starter is supposed to be welded to the TC (see image below.) If the ring gear or the TC is bad, it gets replaced as an assembly. It's the flex-plate that is bolted to the TC by 4 bolts 90 degrees apart and also bolted to the rear of the crankshaft.


Hold the phone! I didn't pick up on this last night but let's make sure we're talking about the same thing here. The big ring gear for the starter is supposed to be welded to the TC (see image below.) If the ring gear or the TC is bad, it gets replaced as an assembly. It's the flex-plate that is bolted to the TC by 4 bolts 90 degrees apart and also bolted to the rear of the crankshaft.




At least now I know its not some nightmarish rig job. None of the TC's I've seen have had this ring gear though, including the one you linked previously, at least not that I've noticed; which is what caused my confusion...sorry for any confusion my confusion caused lol. Now I just got to find a TC like this then I guess. Do you know where I could pick an assembly like this?
edit: on second look the ones that advanced suggested were a perfect fit did have this ring gear, only the one you linked did not.
Hopefully I didnt do to much dmg to the shaft because I was definitely trying to get it off before removing these 4 bolts. The torque converter was still attached when I finally got the rest of the transmission off *facepalm
Last edited by itscheddar; Nov 4, 2012 at 02:54 PM.






