Thank you for being civil. [sm=icon_cheers.gif] I did agree with Roadrunner . . . it's all up to the individual. However, I didn't really agree with his name-calling... You know, being a moderator and all, he should set an example. People shouldn't knock a guy for his spending habits and then proceed to call each other names in spite. Enough of that, though...

If I had it my way, I would have one of each: R32, STi, Evo, SRT-4, etc., etc. . . . I bought the R32, though, because I prefer a hatchback. It's a bonus that it has AWD and pretty much better *everything* than my previous Mk4 GTI VR6. I'm not concerned with reliability because my old car didn't give me many problems, and the VR6 engine is solid.

Were you referring to that one diesel pickup truck? I saw a video of that thing... Holy poop!! It just hauls like a frieght train down that 1320... with a trail of black soot following behind. Have you seen the Dodge SRT-10? It's a cool lookin' pick'em up truck with a Viper engine. It's not my style, but it's pretty cool, nevertheless!

 

no, the truck I was referring to is a 2004 (?) Silverado with twin turbos if I recall the article... it's a black short box, and the truck looks completely stock outside... from the tires on up... and it runs insane times in the 1/4... I can't remember which month the article was in now, but it was recent... and I know it was Hot Rod

I believe the name calling was supposed to be aimed more at "other" R32 owners who claimed to race Stage 3 cars, though there are none available to race at the moment, so... hence, we have a case of someone boasting a false claim. you'll find Max, though we are not perfect, we here in the SRT section do not tolerate too many false claims and will call people out. Also, as I am sure you are well aware of, you are in a Dodge forum, so most members are "dodge crazy"... (good or bad )

you seem fairly knowledgable and have been respectful, so welcome to the site, just remember... we here like to think of our little Neon's as "Gods" The SRT-10 is just insane... the quad-cab that is rumored for the 05 model year is what really makes you shake your head!!!

 

Exactly what "names" did he call you? I don't consider the word "stupid" name calling, because a person may actually be that way. RR has a reputation for "calling them like he sees them" but I highly doubt he was calling anyone names. And he's also doing his job as moderator by pointing out flaws in people's arguments concerning DCX products. If you don't like the climate here, feel free to go elswhere, but you'll be hard pressed to find folks who are so tolerant of you trashing the vehicles they've chosen to own...

 

I haven't read about that one... sounds cool, though. If I had to buy a truck, it would *have* to be something like that. I won't have any of that Escalade with 22" spinners garbage.

No, no... I think you misunderstood my meaning. No harm done... I know the name calling wasn't directed at me. I just figured a moderator would refrain from stuff like that. But if that's how it goes here, then I respect that. You guys make the rules. As far as false claims go, I think any car forum would call BS on such things. I see it everywhere. Like you guys... if I had the knowledge, I'd tell it like it is and call the chump out.

Much appreciated. Thanks for the welcome. It's good to learn about other cars besides my own. That way, instead of getting my *** handed to me, I can just give a
[sm=smiley20.gif] because I know what's up.

BTW... I gotta make a plug here... If anyone's into *good* beer, please let me know. I'm a homebrewer and a beer geek, so I love to talk about the stuff. A drink here and there is certainly covered, too.

 

You misunderstood my post. He didn't call me any names; rather, I was surprised that a moderator would write something harsh like that. If he's the type that always writes what's on his mind then that's a-okay, too. I just don't see many mods that write like that. That was my point.

I don't mind things here, either. They are what they are. Please tell me where I trashed peoples' vehicles. I did no such thing, and I don't know where you got that idea.

 

I have not and do not call names or flame anyone, he was being stupid and he is a complete liar. Coming on here and claiming to have what he claims to have is one thing, but then claiming to beat something that doesn't even exist, which most everyone on here knows, is just plain stupid. I have read this exact post on here before with the same stupid claim, but it was under a different name than mariomllr which is the current name of the one posting this. I have always been heavily against flaming and name calling, but mariomllr is simply trolling and he is only here to start trouble. Making statements like this,"i have a turbocharged r32 will take your str4 any time" (quoted from mariomllr, post #13) is exactly the type of comments that I am refering to, he is obviously just here to start trouble and problems. We have had his type on here before doing this exact same thing and they all tend to be the ricer types that have their panties in a bunch because they poured thousands of dollars into their Civics (most of the ones that have done this type of stuff on here have Civics) to get beat by a lowly stock Neon like the SRT-4.

The only possible term that is questionable is my use of the term ricer where I said, "Sorry, Try again ricer.". To me this is used as a descriptive term for one claims to have a boosted R32 when in reality he probably has a base model Golf with a body kit, fart tip muffler, a wing twice the size of the car and a bunch of stickers and scoops. This is far more likely since he has obviously lied about beating Stage 3 equipped SRT-4's that don't even exist yet.

I came off rather harsh because I'm tired of these types of people who come on here to start trouble, flame and talk nothing but BS, lies and trash. If he had came here and simply told the truth for starters and then kept it to a nice civil exchange, it never would have been this way. But instead he doesn't come here with that in mind, he is here to cause problems.

As far as knocking a guy for his spending habits, I have done no such thing. I simply made an observation that he is boasting/bragging about buying a more expensive car and modifying it to beat something that doesn't even exist yet, so I simply noted that with just the money spent to buy an R32 an SRT-4 could be purchased and modified to more than beat the modified R32 he claims to have. How is this knocking someone for their spending habits? I never called him names for allegedly buying and modifying an R32, nor did I belittle him in any way for this.

As you yourself has even said," Being thrifty doesn't qualify one as being superior." That is 100% true. And with that being true, how about I go to your forums and brag about beating a modified R32 with a modified Viper, like the Stryker Twin Turbo Viper which has a streetable 1,100 horsepower. Are you gonna honestly tell me that your not gonna bring up the "cost vs. peformance argument. It won't hold up anywhere. If someone can afford to put $X into their car, then what difference does it make? Being thrifty doesn't qualify one as being superior.?" (your quote) or the price difference issue?

Now on to my final observation. I see that you apparently know mariomllr from what you said in post #31. And since both of you joined this forum on the same day, as well as your knowing him and making this into a big deal by taking things out of context and reading too much into things, it would seem as though you are here to do the same thing he is, just in a different way.

Remember that this is Dodge Forum and that ragging on that which most everyone here has is going to start trouble. There have been people that come here and simply started off by posting about beating a Dodge with another brand, which is not the best way to start off, but if done properly isn't a problem.

If this continues to be a problem I would prefer that either/both of you stay on your VW/R32 forums and to stop the continued trouble making and arguing on our forums. We don't come to your forums flaming you and starting trouble there, so I ask that you show us the same courtesy.

 

Jesus... was that really necessary? Please, read on.
BTW, I hope that after you read my replies, everything can be cool. I separated everything for clarity. I'm also kinda shocked at the fact that this is the longest reply I have received in my entire life... I know you had to explain your point of view, though. Wow.

That's fine. Thanks for explaining.

I understand your point of view now... no worries. I have nothing against you.

Alright, it may not necessarily be knocking someone for their spending habits, but the whole argument of "for the price of ABC car you could have bought XYZ car for less and have it be faster." IMHO, that rebuttal is annoying -- not because you wrote it, but because I see it used over and over again on every car forum I visit. I'm not trying to belittle anyone here. It's just an observation. If you took offense, then so be it. It wasn't meant to offend.

Why bother? The only purpose that serves is to get other people worked up. That is not my goal.

Nope. I won't. I'll comment on how that particular argument is bunk, but not much else.

1) I don't "know" mariomllr. I just recognize his name because he posted some BS on Vortex about having a Stage 2 VF-SC that puts down some unrealistic power figures.
2) I joined on the same day as he? Big deal. I didn't follow him here. I do not take things out of context, and if I did, it was unintentional.
3) Your "final observation" is incorrect. Please do explain to me how I'm doing the same thing he is, but in a different way. You really had to dig for that one. The reason I signed up here is not even remotely close to the reason mariomllr is here.

I know what type of forum this is and ragging on peoples' cars simply isn't on my agenda. If I offended you, then take a step back and relax. I had no intention of pissing off anyone here.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill with my posts. I respect people on any forum. I have not caused any problems as far as I can tell, so nothing will continue. That's moot. Again... if I started trouble, please show me. That was not my goal. I have shown nothing but courtesy here. Heck, I even mentioned that this "mariomllr" guy doesn't even have a turbo system like he indicated here. He has a Stage 2 VF-SC. That's beside the point, though. I have no association with this guy.

 

wow intresting!

 

More R32 crap....at first i liked there styling till i started running into a few wagon owners who were less the polite on the streets...now i hold no remorse what so ever for stomping a wagon, the R32 is a nice packaged car...but the price with the entire volkswagon line is beyond sanity and levels out at insanity...come on there 30+K, plus up to another 5+K for there stage levels and it does not end there....They come standard equipment with a flower vase....now hold on...a flower vase? Am i missing something or do volkswagon actually think there is any need for a flower vase in any car? Do they think americans want a flower vase on there dash board? Back on subject i have raced a really fast R32...lost one and won the next....the SRT-4 is far the R32's superior....but some peole can not be told that they have to be showed.

 

Max, ignore andy, he gets delusional.