Better than stage 3!?
I was in Atlanta yesterday and wound up talking to some people that work exclusively with turbo cars. For less than 2 thousand dollars, and with only a few modifications, they can give me 300 whp. For 4 thousand dollars, they can bolt on a ball bearing turbo capable of 350 hp (with stock injectors) and over 400 with new injectors. These people are amazing! I am in the performance business and have a lot of dealings with people that really know what they are doing, and these guys definitely rank among those. It was Battleground performance. I am going to start with the non turbo mods and eventually work my way up to the turbo. Most of the modifications can be made in steps, almost up to the turbo.
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I will have proof of these modifications in two weeks when I return home from Texas. I will let you all know.
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I will have proof of these modifications in two weeks when I return home from Texas. I will let you all know.
so how is that better? 4k for 350hp....s3 is 3500 and it gives you 350hp. injectors are about $500...so again, how is that better?
not to mention that putting a ball bearing turbo on these cars is a complete waste of money. there's no way that we can put down the power that they make.
not to mention that putting a ball bearing turbo on these cars is a complete waste of money. there's no way that we can put down the power that they make.
ATP sells a kit thats like for 2 grand and gets you 340whp... thats way better than those guys BTW ball bearing turbos are better for reliablitly over ceramic not to mention . just a better all round turbo.
sure they're better for reliability....there's less stress on the turbine wheel. but that doesn't change the fact that it's a waste on these cars and will cause more wheel spin then go. they spool way too fast to enable the srt to take advantage of the power. as far as big turbos go, some lag is actually good as it allows the tires to grip before the power hits. instant boost sucks unless you're on dr's or slicks at a track and are set up for it. for the street, it's useless.
then i guess having a stage 2 or 3 on your car is usless. cuz that all you do with it. spin the tires. and if you have a turbo upgrade im pretty sure your taking it to the track and have slicks. thats just be tho.
No biggie, you can get 501 WHP and 529 WTQ for as little as $5,000. There is a yellow '03 in the current issue of Modified Mag's Top Tuners Special Edition that has done this and the engine itself is bone stock and only running Stage 1 as well as other bolt on mods. They list the mods/parts that get it there and it only costs $5,000 for the parts. Too bad I didn't have this before I started playing with mine.[
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who's car is that rr, does it say in the article? i think i know who it is, and if it is who i think it is, a hell of a lot more than just some bolt ons went into that car....
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Chick, I think this is Steve andersons car. Given publishing lag, it would fit. And while he did indeed make 500 on that motor, the 5K in parts wasn't enough to keep it alive at those levels for long. Realistically, for a 500whp motor, your going to have to build it from the ground up. Like that guy has since done.
About 400whp is what I would call a more realisitic figure for what the motor can stand up to, and I think that might be pushing it. We need more time to tell. I see an awful lot of "Woohoo!!!!! 400+whp!!!!, I'm the man!!!!!" followed by "Broke part xxx, what now?!!!" Strapping a car to a dyno and ripping off a big number is cool. But using that car every day without stuff breaking is not quite so easy.
Is this the list, RR?
" Turbochargers.com gt30/40 dual ball bearing turbo
PSI FI 3bar map fuel computer/map clamp
agp turbo manifold
tial wastegate with multiple springs
tial BOV
agp FMIC
muffler shop 3 inch turbo-back
externaly dumping wastegate
autometer fuel pressure reg - in tank walboro 255 lph, areomotive FPR, return line"
If so, this is the same car we watched so spectacularly blow it's guts on a Texas dragstrip, using that same formula.
About 400whp is what I would call a more realisitic figure for what the motor can stand up to, and I think that might be pushing it. We need more time to tell. I see an awful lot of "Woohoo!!!!! 400+whp!!!!, I'm the man!!!!!" followed by "Broke part xxx, what now?!!!" Strapping a car to a dyno and ripping off a big number is cool. But using that car every day without stuff breaking is not quite so easy.
Is this the list, RR?
" Turbochargers.com gt30/40 dual ball bearing turbo
PSI FI 3bar map fuel computer/map clamp
agp turbo manifold
tial wastegate with multiple springs
tial BOV
agp FMIC
muffler shop 3 inch turbo-back
externaly dumping wastegate
autometer fuel pressure reg - in tank walboro 255 lph, areomotive FPR, return line"
If so, this is the same car we watched so spectacularly blow it's guts on a Texas dragstrip, using that same formula.
that's who i figured it was, but i was thinking of his current set up, not his previous one. yes, on his old set up i could see 5k....but we know how well that worked for him [:@]


