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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 04:43 AM
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whats up everyone... lookin to get these rims 17x8...wouduring what size everyone think i should get and that would fit.... and also what brand some people are using and there thoughts... not to sure on the size really, so if you could help me out that would be great, thanks!
 
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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I don't want to take credit for the work - another person somewhere else said it best:

STOCK WHEEL/TIRE INFO

Wheel size = 17x6
Type = cast aluminum
Weight = 21lbs
Offset = 45mm positive
P.C.D = 5x100

Tire Size = 205/50/17
Brand = Michelin Pilot Sport (2003 model) BFG T/A KDW 2 (2004 model)
Tire Weight = 20lbs (Michelin) 23lbs (BFG)


WHEEL OFFSETS INFO

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OFFSET

The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types.

Zero Offset
The hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.

Positive
The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.

Negative
The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheels centerline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically a negative offset.

If the offset of the wheel is not correct for the car, the handling can be adversely affected. When the width of the wheel changes, the offset also changes numerically. If the offset were to stay the same while you added width, the additional width would be split evenly between the inside and outside. For most cars, this won't work correctly. We have test fitted thousands of different vehicles for proper fitment. Our extensive database allows our sales staff to offer you the perfect fit for your vehicle.








The stock SRT-4 wheels are sized 17x6 with a 45mm offset (positive) and 5x100 bolt pattern.

Typically offsets in the range of 35-45mm for aftermarket wheels will fit the SRT-4 however the spoke design plays a MAJOR role in determining fitment. The lower the offset the lesser chance there is with coming in contact with the brake calipers. To avoid any clearance issues I suggest that you find a wheel with an offset between 35-40. On that same note this does not imply that a wheel with a 42 or 45mm offset will not fit. It will all depend on the spoke design of that particular wheel.

The following applies to 16, 17, 18 and 19 inch wheels:

7.0-7.5 inch wide wheels generally fit with offsets between 35-40mm. *see paragraph above regarding exceptions*

8.0-8.5 inch wide wheels will require nothing less than a 35mm offset. When going to a wider wheel the problem isn't so much clearance with the calipers but rather clearance with the stock struts and transmission case. Even if a coilover suspension is present, a 35mm offset is recommended. Better to be safe then sorry.

It is always best to search these forums for others who have experience with a certain wheel before purchasing.


HUBCENTRIC RINGS


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Information provided by JustForWheels.com

Hubcentric rings are designed to fill in the gap between the hub of the car and the center bore of the wheel. Most wheel manufacturers design their wheels with a center bore large enough to fit on most cars. Therefore, since wheel manufacturers make their center bore large enough to fit most cars, most wheel fitments have a gap between the hub and the center bore. This gap usually doesn't allow for the wheel to fit hubcentric but rather lugcentric which causes vibration. Therefore, to fill the gap and ensure the fitment is hubcentric, hub rings are used.

If you are going to purchase new wheels its probably a good idea to purchase hub rings as well. This will ensure that the center bore of the wheel sits flush on the hub and will avoid any vibration that may occur while driving.

There are two kinds of hub rings that can be purchased: plastic and aluminum. Some say that excessive heat from braking can cause the plastic rings to melt and warp over time. Metal rings seem to be the weapon of choice for most. To determine which size hub rings you'll need for your aftermarket wheels, first find out from the manufacturer what the center bore diameter is. This number combined with the SRT-4 hub size of 57.10 will be the size you need for your hubcentric rings.

Example: 73.0 x 57.1

Metal hub rings can be purchased from Discount Tire Direct for about $15 shipped. All you need to do is just give them the size you need.

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TIRE SIZES

The stock tire size for the SRT-4 is 205/50/17. The overall diameter is 25.1". (the KDW's are slightly bigger at 25.4") When upgrading to aftermarket wheels, it is best to choose a tire size with the same overall diameter. This ensures odometer and speedometer accuracy.

The following are the most common and appropriate upgrade tire sizes:

16" wheels = 225/55/16
17" wheels = 225/45/17
18" wheels = 225/40/18
19" wheels = 225/35/19

These tires are all closest to the overall diameter of the stock tire size and do not interfere with suspension pieces, fenders or any of the above. There are other sizes that can be used but they will either be smaller or larger in overall diameter.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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225 or 235 would be the best for a 8" rim. i would suggest toyo tires, i'm very happy with mine. also the fuzion's are pretty good and fairly cheap as well. all the usual suspects are floating around as well (nitto, falken, khumo, etc.)
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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I myself like Goodyear, BF Goodrich and Bridgestone. For the Goodyears, I like the Eagle F1 GS-D3's. For BF Goodrich I like the stock SRT-4 KDW II's. And for Bridgestone I really like the Potenzas.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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thanks everyone for the info! hope to be ordering my new rims and tires soon....thanks again
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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can a 17 by 7.5 fit a 225 size tire ? thanx for any help im looking to get a set of ssr comps.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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anything from 7-8" can run a 225, so yes.

so the comps fit without spacers? i can't recall off hand seeing a car with those on.....
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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anything from 7-8" can run a 225, so yes.

so the comps fit without spacers? i can't recall off hand seeing a car with those on.....
I believe they are +35 and fit perfectly in a 17x7.5 with a 225/45-17.

I remember the factory lightweight srt-4 having them. 12.7 lbs in a 17" wheel---->mmmmmmm.

There are a number of people running them.

I will be getting either these, Motegi tracklites(for cost reasons), or a couple of other sub 16 lb wheels.

BTW - does anyone know of other wheels that weigh as little as the ssr?

I am very interested in losing unsprung, rotational weight. 9 lbs a wheel (stock are 22 lbs)x4 wheels=36 lbs of rotational weight. That is like dropping 360 lbs from the car, since rotational weight is like 10 times as efective as static sprung weight. Should drop 3 tenths of a second or more of the quarter. The only problem is the possibility of wheelspin due to lack of inertia-resistant weight, but I don't think it is a factor.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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whoa.....chill on the magazine racing!!! haha

lightweight rims will help you out greatly, but i would not go so far as to say that you should see a .3s reduction in times due to them. there's more that goes into reducing times than reducing some weight.

i have the traklites, and i'm quite happy with them. they're not that much cheaper than the ssr comps at $320 a rim going rate. at 13lbs i'm quite happy with them, and i honestly like them more than the comps, but that's just a personal preference.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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whoa.....chill on the magazine racing!!! haha

i have the traklites, and i'm quite happy with them. they're not that much cheaper than the ssr comps at $320 a rim going rate. at 13lbs i'm quite happy with them, and i honestly like them more than the comps, but that's just a personal preference.
You got me on the magazine racing, there PSI, I pulled it from the other forum - you know - EVO7's stuff.
In my defense - I am home sick[:@] and I need something to do, so I fill my time with such endeavors.

On the traklites, I thought I had seen them for less than that. Are they the forged ones? I didn't think they came in our bolt pattern. Anyway - nice wheels. I definitely like that they come in flat black(would look good on my silver, i think).


 
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