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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Okay I know it was on here somewhere, and I was told last night it was on here somewhere, but forgive me because I can't find where it is. Anywho...onto the question. In the past 3 days I've:

-Realigned the car
-Computer Balanced all four tires
-Roadforce balanced all four tires (because the computer didnt seem to work)
-And rotated all four as well as upped the psi in my tires to 40 (from 32, as they're a 44 rated tire)

And IT STILL SHAKES! When going uphill it'll be barely noticeable or not at all. Downhill it gets worse, and from 70-80 forget about it....and its absolutely driving me nuts.

Suspension bushing kits were recommended to me to cure the problem, because the issue isnt with the tires, its with the control arm bushings themselves. So my question is, I've found two on Modern Performance:

http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/energy2k.shtml - Energy Suspension Full kit
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx...prothane.shtml - Prothane Suspension Full Kit

But does anyone else make them? And have any of you installed them on your car? Results? This shimmy is driving me insane, and I can't toe my front wheels in anymore or I'll risk balding on the inside of my tires as I wont have an even surface with the road.

[sm=violin.gif]...*sigh*
 
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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use this as an excuse to upgrade!!! the hotchkis sway bars come with new bushings, so you get two things done for the price of one!
 
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Old May 1, 2005 | 04:35 AM
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This is true...however the kits that they have out there specifically for bushings/endlinks seem to have ALOT more pieces (i.e. endlinks, control arm bushings etc) than what would come with the swaybar (just the two bushings for either side). So though I do want swaybars, I also want this shimmy to leave me alone.... And while money is definitely a factor since I have alot of bills to pay...wouldnt the Suspension kit benefit me more now? Or not? I have nowhere near the needed amount of money for swaybars, though I wish I did []
 
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Old May 1, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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i honestly don't see how they are saying that the bushings are making the car shake....what is their rationalization for that one? i'm thinking it might be a problem with the hubcentric rings...do you have them installed? metal or plastic? if you have plastic, get a set of metal ones and throw those on first. even if you already have the metal ones, i've heard of those warping to the rims, so maybe just try replacing them. rings are a lot cheaper than bushing kits, especially when it comes to install!

but if you are going to replace all the bushings, i like the engery suspension products. honestly it's because i've had experience with their products before and it has always been good. i'm just not as familiar with prothane.
 
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Old May 1, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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I was leaning more towards the Energy Suspension kit also.

The spacers are metal, and they're "glued" onto the hub itself so that no one else messes up my rims (as happened before). The reason I don't think its the rings/spacers, is because two people I know who put 18s on their cars also have the same issue, and they don't have spacers. They're running the same exact size tire also. Maybe its something with 18" rims? I'm not entirely sure. I don't know of other people who have this problem even after repeated balancing etc.

I think I'll get the ES kit as soon as the money becomes available to me, and go from there. I do want swaybars though....yes yes I do.
 
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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i did a quick search on srtforums to see if i could find anyone with a similar problem and what they have tried to solve it. here's what i came up with...

1. increase tire pressure (you already did).
2. warped rotors, replaced and shake went away.
3. swapped the front rims to the rear, fixed the shimmy.
4. using a metal spacer with a built in hubcentric ring.
5. the spacer is too large and has caused the rim to be off the hub, causing the shimmy (i don't recall what size spacer you're using)
6. broken axle
7. didn't remove the crush washers from the wheels when installing the rims (did you check if they did this?)

these seem to the be common issues with getting a wheel shake like you're having. check into these before ordering new parts just to be sure. hope this helps
 
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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^^^^I think you got all of the ones I would mention.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Okay here goes....

ORIGINAL: PSI Chick
1. increase tire pressure (you already did). Yup from 32psi - 40psi....I may drop it back down the rides too hard
2. warped rotors, replaced and shake went away. This is my second set of rotors, and they seem to be okay, though that was an issue at first.
3. swapped the front rims to the rear, fixed the shimmy. Did this Friday when I had them rotated. Uni-directional tires, so front to back only.
4. using a metal spacer with a built in hubcentric ring. I'm not too sure what one of these look like...
5. the spacer is too large and has caused the rim to be off the hub, causing the shimmy (i don't recall what size spacer you're using) My spacer is a 3/16th milled down from a 5/16, my lug nuts were also WAYYY too small. They're open ended Gorilla Spline drives, but they didnt even cover half the stud, so Town Fair Tire gave me larger, new ones. Because of my rims they need to be open ended. And I only had four lugs on my left rear wheel for the past....12,000 or so miles, now I've got 5.
6. broken axle I dont think its anything this extreme....
7. didn't remove the crush washers from the wheels when installing the rims (did you check if they did this?) No I didn't check this...Ill see if I can get it over to TFT so they can check for me. I guess thats my last resort before ordering new parts huh?
Thanks for the list though that kinda made things easier when looking at it in that perspective. I doubt its an axle, because when Paul Bailey's replaced my front brake system about 3k miles ago they would've noticed. Then again....maybe not LOL. Alrighty then, I'm gonna check and see if those stupid crush washers are still on (my luck they are). But if my brakes were replaced I very much doubt that they would've stuck them there. Since the Alignment/Rotation/4W Balance and Increased PSI its not AS bad as it used to be....but its still prominent, and annoying.

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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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i really have no clue lol[sm=imsorry.gif], good luck with it though.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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I dont either, I've pretty much exhausted most of the sources for such a problem. Thats why I posted here. If theres no crushwashers, then I'm gonna get the suspension bushing kit, and go from there.
 
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