whats this about the 04' being the fastest of the three years?
Interesting comments on the 05's running like dog doo-doo. The 2.4 has been around a while. In the typical Chrysler fashon, the tooling for this motor is probably worn out and they don't want to spend the money seeing we don't know how long this motor is gonna be around. Plus, they manufacture tons of stuff in Mexico. Who knows what the hell they are doing down there. We saw the same thing with 3.9, 5.2, and 5.9L Magnums. The last year models were toilets!! Crankshafts wiped out at 10k miles, crappy valve seats, blocks with lifter bores machined improperly. We had some 03' 3.9's that were rapping so bad, tech line had us use a 2001 block. Worn out tooling was the excuse they gave dealers.
ORIGINAL: RIPSIGUY
Interesting comments on the 05's running like dog doo-doo. The 2.4 has been around a while. In the typical Chrysler fashon, the tooling for this motor is probably worn out and they don't want to spend the money seeing we don't know how long this motor is gonna be around. Plus, they manufacture tons of stuff in Mexico. Who knows what the hell they are doing down there. We saw the same thing with 3.9, 5.2, and 5.9L Magnums. The last year models were toilets!! Crankshafts wiped out at 10k miles, crappy valve seats, blocks with lifter bores machined improperly. We had some 03' 3.9's that were rapping so bad, tech line had us use a 2001 block. Worn out tooling was the excuse they gave dealers.
Interesting comments on the 05's running like dog doo-doo. The 2.4 has been around a while. In the typical Chrysler fashon, the tooling for this motor is probably worn out and they don't want to spend the money seeing we don't know how long this motor is gonna be around. Plus, they manufacture tons of stuff in Mexico. Who knows what the hell they are doing down there. We saw the same thing with 3.9, 5.2, and 5.9L Magnums. The last year models were toilets!! Crankshafts wiped out at 10k miles, crappy valve seats, blocks with lifter bores machined improperly. We had some 03' 3.9's that were rapping so bad, tech line had us use a 2001 block. Worn out tooling was the excuse they gave dealers.
Good point. Very interesting.
ORIGINAL: 05srt4acr
the 04 has a different fuel map in the ecu no matter what stage it is
the 04 has a different fuel map in the ecu no matter what stage it is
The difference is DEFINETELY not half a second to 60. A lot of that has to do with driver. I don't remember the exact figures, but there was a magazine test where the test driver's best 1/4 time (the one they printed as the 1/4 time for the car) was about .15 seconds SLOWER than a stock srt-4 did it about a month ago at El Cajon Speedway. Not sure if that made sense, but I'm just saying that magazine tests don't always show the car's true potential.
"The '04 model nipped 0.3 second off the 60-mph sprint (5.3 seconds) and ran the quarter in 13.9 at 103 mph." <that's straight from a car & driver article. If I remember correctly, Pressurecooker's stock srt-4 did the 1/4 in 13.86...
Running at certain tracks also doesn't show a cars true performance sometimes as well. At National Trails Raceway I watched several WRX's from brand new to a few years old, all of which were stock, run no better than 15.8's in the 1/4 mile, one of which is a friend of mine. The WRX's are good for 14.5-14.6 in the 1/4 mile as published in most every test done with them, yet every single one of them at this track were over a full second slower. When we went to another track, Norwalk Raceway to be exact, he made a pass as soon as we got there after a 2 hour drive and he ran a 14.7 in the 1/4 mile. That is a huge difference from track to track. I don't see how this would be possible, but I know it is indeed a fact and I probably wouldn't believe it had I not seen it for myself. I know that at Trails even with my mods I cannot run the stock times that an SRT-4 should run. I got screwed out of my chance to run when I was up at Norwalk due to the pro's taking too long to run. But I do know from his run that it was the track and not our cars or our driving that was the cause for the **** poor times out at Trails. This just goes to show how big of a difference a track and it's atmosphere can make.


