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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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A mid 90's Z28 Camaro convertible wouldn't even test me today. Sucked, I wanted to see if I could take him. I want something to base how quick this car is to my 05 Mustang GT. I know my GT eats the mid-90's Z28's without a problem. Anyone else race one to give me a comparison??

(BTW-I know my GT can eat a stock SRT-4, not so sure about a Stage 1, which is what my car is now)
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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A mid 90's Z28 Camaro convertible wouldn't even test me today. Sucked, I wanted to see if I could take him. I want something to base how quick this car is to my 05 Mustang GT. I know my GT eats the mid-90's Z28's without a problem. Anyone else race one to give me a comparison??

(BTW-I know my GT can eat a stock SRT-4, not so sure about a Stage 1, which is what my car is now)
Nice that you have both a GT and a SRT-4. What else is in your stable?

Well - rest easy, you would roast a stock mid 90's z28. Too bad, too they are a lot of fun to ego bash.

Personally, I think a good driver can keep a SRT-4 neck and neck or at least close enough to slap the trunk at the end of a 1/4 with an 05 GT, BTW. I know I did. (I say go throw a stage 2 kit on there and whack some SVT's)

 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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These 2 are the only cars in the stable currently! Past cars include a 71 Challenger, and a 73 Duster, both with 340's. What an engine that was, pity they kept the 318 and the 360 alive and killed the 340.

My GT just murders SRT's off the line, I think from a roll it would be alot closer of a race, but there is no such thing as from a roll in the 1/4. My GT runs pretty constant 13.7's, the SRT's I see run anywhere from 13.9 and up.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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(BTW-I know my GT can eat a stock SRT-4, not so sure about a Stage 1, which is what my car is now)
When i was bone stock i raced my buddies 05 Roush GT and i pulled away from him at the top of 2nd into 3rd,so trust me a stock srt4 can and will(with the right driver)pull a new GT Mustang...
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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These 2 are the only cars in the stable currently! Past cars include a 71 Challenger, and a 73 Duster, both with 340's. What an engine that was, pity they kept the 318 and the 360 alive and killed the 340.

My GT just murders SRT's off the line, I think from a roll it would be alot closer of a race, but there is no such thing as from a roll in the 1/4. My GT runs pretty constant 13.7's, the SRT's I see run anywhere from 13.9 and up.
I don't know if .2 seconds constitutes murder, man. Driver error or a mllion other factors could make that type of swing. I have seen numerous GT's run in the 14's and some as low as 13.5. Stock srt-4's... I have seen the same results.

Car and Driver tested the '04 srt-4 to 13.9@103.5 and 5.3 to 60. They tested the GT between 13.8@102 and 14.1 at 104 and 5.2 to 60. Many other sources report the same. I have personally seen them beat by stock srt-4's in the 1/4. They are governed at 143mph where srt-4's aren't and can hit 153 stock. 70-0 is accomplished in 183ft for the stang vs. 169 for the srt-4, and it'll attain .87g on the pad where the srt-4 is at .86. They are great cars, and the first good offering ford has come up with in many years(I like them a lot), but performancewise about equal to an srt-4, don't kid yourself.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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i second that
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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Yup, performance wise they are so close that things like how much junk you're carring in the trunk, how much gasoline is in your tank, what air pressure you have in your tires, outside air temp, etc., etc., come into play and of course the driver is a factor as well. A SRT-4 with some basic mods like Stage 1, upgraded exhaust, etc. would send a stock 'stang packing. But then 'stang owners can mod their cars as well!!

Kinda reminds me of the "arms race" the USA used to have with Russia.......

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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I haven't seen any GT run with my SRT-4. I have ran anywhere between a 88-2005 and there isn't any GT that can beat me. I ran a 89 fox body lastnight with a heavy cam, slicks, carb. and intake, 373 gears, and open headers. I smoked his a$$ by like 3 or 4 car lenghts. It doesn't matter about what car and driver says about the quaters time on 2005 GT and the SRT4. Every GT and SRT4 is different from each other. Trust me I know. And plus that is pro. driver driving the cars ANYWAYS. And An SRT 4 will smoked a mid's 90 Z28, it doesn't matter if it is auto. or 6 speed.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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I know that I have raced at least 3 different SRT-4's that I can distinctly remember, and none of them were close. When it's this close, it seems like it's more the driver than the car. I know my Mustang very well, and drive it just as well. I think until I get more used to my SRT that when I race, alot of cars will beat me that shouldn't, just because I can't get the feel for FWD. Hopefully that will change with time!! I mean I have tried launching at all different RPM's, feathering the clutch, the whole she-bang-a-bang, I just can't seem to really launch it like I can my Stang. Then there's the whole turbo kicking in. You have to be a better driver in the SRT than my Stang, that much is certain.

If any of you guys want to give me some tips, I would be more than open to them. Also, are motor mounts that hard to install? And I have heard debate over going with them vrs. lower arms for the wheel hop problem. Again, this is my first FWD performance car, and my first car with a turbo, so this is pretty new to me. Old school RWD, with a V8 stuffed under the hood, no problem. New FWD with a little 4 banger turbo=like trying to learn to walk again, lol!
 
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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STANMAN,

I'm not suprised a mid 90s convertible Z28 backed down to your SRT-4. These are pretty quick little machines. They don't get great off the line (in general), but have real good mid and top end. At the same time, I wouldn't brag about this guy backing down. I mean, mid 90s - as in 10 years ago?

For example back in 1988 or so, the V8 Mustang GT was putting 225HP down. Now, the V6 Mustang (Not even a GT) is putting 260HP down.

I've got a 93 Chevy Silverado extended cab with a 99 LS1 (with some nice bolt ons). I turned one of your 'brothers' away with his horns tucked between his tailpipes. I've also turned away 05 Mustang GTs and a Lexus GS430. No, at no point (0-60 did these have the edge). I was in front the entire time. Not bad for a 4400lb truck (even when unburdened by its its fata$$ driver). BTW, this is all done naturally aspirited (no turbo, no superchargers, no mirrors - he he) Am I cheatin' cause they never came out with a StageIII 93 Chevy Silverado?

I find a great deal of satisfaction of finding a newer car/truck brandishing their ego, only to tarnish their image in view of everyone behind us as they go, "dang, that truck just ran away from that little Neon".

Either way, when your outclassing the has-beens and yusta-be's no one is really suprised. Smacking down the guy who "should" win is the fun part. If I lose? No big deal - "its just an old pickup" - like you guys have never picked on one of those a dozen times already?
 
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