i put one one this weekend as well and i love it. im losing a little boost but i think mine is due to a broken vacuum line. i love the way mine sounds, but i can see how it will get old after a while cause its always releasing pressure no matter how hard youre in the throttle. but for now im prefectly happy. if you could tell us what you mean by it doesnt work....its not releasing the pressure?, its constantly blowing off when in throttle?, whats it doing?

 

like if there is no vac. on the pink line, cause im not getting the sound it should. and it is on correctly, so i really dont know what else it could be im getting boost and the car is working fine.

 

not everyone is going to be boosting 23psi. the most i plan to go is S2, so its just fine for me.

 

Yep, no one ever mentioned using the Mopar BOV if your gonna run 20+ psi boost and I don't think anyone here would ever suggest doing so either, we know it's limitations.

 

what limitations....?!!i know guys who run 23psi on stock turbo...that doesn't mean you have to race everywhere you go boosting 23 psi....that's what boost controllers are for.These cars where made for racing...If S2 iswhere you wanna go, then good for you.I wouldn'tspend my money in none of those stages...waste of money.If you think about it wth is stage2...a wastegate, stage 1 injectors(04'&05' got'em)PCM, map and tip sensors and an intercooler water sprayer,and it's suppoust to give you 265hp that's with turbo toys...and costs about $1500.Why spend so much money when you can buy an AGP wastegate(150),Intercooler sprayer kit with NOS(300)..S-AFC(300), now thats about $700.But that's just me....every1 has their own choice

 

and I've said it many times before...if you wanna run 15 psi your whole life and sound like a damn 18 wheeler, mopar bov is perfect for you....if you wanna keep up with me, better sell that rice plate!!!.Look i'm not trying to be an *** or anything, just trying to give you my point of view....and I very much respect every1s thoughts and opinions

 

the debate over the stage kits will go on forvever. what people like you obviously don't understand about the point of a stage kit is it's not about hp numbers. stage kits aren't designed to be dyno queens, they're about power. look at the power band of a s2 car compared to a s1/wga/mbc car and you'll see a major difference. i had s2 when it first came out, and was stuck in the middle of the "s2 sucks go s1 w/mods" debate, and i will tell you honestly, i never once lost to a s1 car when i was s2. it's about the curve, not peak numbers. same thing goes for s3. i run the same track times as people that put out a lot higher hp numbers than i do.

also, tell your friend that running 23psi on the stock turbo is stupid and is actually hurting performance. the stock turbo (unless you make it a sst) goes out of it's efficency range at about 19 psi. pushing it past that actually decreases performance. increasing boost doesn't always equal more power.

 

well like you said this debate will go on forever, I just don't think the point of spending thousands of dollars on a stage 3 when you can spend much less or the same and get far better results.By the way, love ur hood and trunk, matches really good with rims and red paint job..mine's red 2

 

arghit's like banging my head against a wall...you don't get far better results for less money, that's the whole point. go to a track and see who runs better times then you'll understand what i'm talking about. dyno's don't get you down the 1320. not to mention that if you're gonna go big turbo and do it right you're spending the same amount of money anyway when you include tuning, so you're only fooling yourself into thinking that it's cheaper because it's lots of small parts rather than one large one. the cost is about the same in the end.

thanks for the compliment on the car i'm actually thinking about painting the cf black...not sure about the funds though.

 

well thats what i want my car to look...i just don't wanna spend money on hood and trunk right now, but yeah your car is like a dream come true.......and maybe your right, you obviously know a lot more than i do....but I still wouldn't buy any stage....and please stop banging your head against the wall, both you and your car are way 2 hot to be taking that kind of punichment