[3rd Gen : 96-00]: Intermittent Stall 97 Grand Caravan 3.8L
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Intermittent Stall 97 Grand Caravan 3.8L
I have a intermittent stalling issue, just up and quits when it wants too, but not more than twice per driving cycle, roughly 3-4 hours a day. (if that makes any sense..lol).
2 Car Pro's mentioned possibly compression or Vacuum, I think not on the compression, because it runs fine otherwise and for long periods, and theoretically thinking if it was compression it would run like crap or not at all. The motor runs smooth. There were some broke Vacuum lines that I repaired, didn't help.
An employee at autozone said possibly the fuel filter, I changed that and it still done the stall, it did need changed tho, it was restrictive when blowing through it, I did wonder it maybe fuel system cleaner would help?
Done wiggle test on Relays/Fuses, wiggle test on plug wires, coil connectors, nothing replicated the stall. I also replaced the plugs last month, so those are good.
I cleaned the IAC a while back and that didn't help the stall issue.
Anyone else have any ideas? I also checked the fuel pressure and it was 41 lbs before I changed the filter.
Also No engine codes were found. but there is a slightly cracked ground cable end on the battery but it stays tight so I haven't replaced it.
2 Car Pro's mentioned possibly compression or Vacuum, I think not on the compression, because it runs fine otherwise and for long periods, and theoretically thinking if it was compression it would run like crap or not at all. The motor runs smooth. There were some broke Vacuum lines that I repaired, didn't help.
An employee at autozone said possibly the fuel filter, I changed that and it still done the stall, it did need changed tho, it was restrictive when blowing through it, I did wonder it maybe fuel system cleaner would help?
Done wiggle test on Relays/Fuses, wiggle test on plug wires, coil connectors, nothing replicated the stall. I also replaced the plugs last month, so those are good.
I cleaned the IAC a while back and that didn't help the stall issue.
Anyone else have any ideas? I also checked the fuel pressure and it was 41 lbs before I changed the filter.
Also No engine codes were found. but there is a slightly cracked ground cable end on the battery but it stays tight so I haven't replaced it.
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Thanks for the response, I rechecked the fuel pressure pressure, it was a little higher at around 45 lbs this time around, but I thought the pressure seemed to be trickling back down extremely slow, With further reading a Dodge tech on another site told someone else that there could be a injector leak, fuel pump issue or pressure regulator. I can rule out fuel injectors because there is no gas smell anywhere on the motor, I'm wondering about the regulator, maybe you can either confirm or correct me on this, Does the regulator do 2 things? Does it hold the pressure while keyed off? Or does it just keep the pressure from being too high when running?
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I have a Dodge Caravan 1997 3.0 Ltr, It started to stall out when I slow down. A mechanic friend took it for a spin, and He pointed out that it is the TPS sensor. I brought a couple of used TPS sensors and tried one of them. The stalling is still hapening, I will try the other used sensor soon. I unplugged the TPS wires and the car drove much better, with a little of white smoke and a little rough idle, with a check ingine light on, of course.
I read on this forum and on youtube, that somebody had the stalling issue and it went away after He replaced/cleaned the EGR Valve. Others on youytube advise to replace the MAP sensor.
What do you guys think? Thanks
I read on this forum and on youtube, that somebody had the stalling issue and it went away after He replaced/cleaned the EGR Valve. Others on youytube advise to replace the MAP sensor.
What do you guys think? Thanks
Last edited by mgoma99; 08-17-2015 at 04:22 PM.
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Thanks for the response, I rechecked the fuel pressure pressure, it was a little higher at around 45 lbs this time around, but I thought the pressure seemed to be trickling back down extremely slow, With further reading a Dodge tech on another site told someone else that there could be a injector leak, fuel pump issue or pressure regulator. I can rule out fuel injectors because there is no gas smell anywhere on the motor, I'm wondering about the regulator, maybe you can either confirm or correct me on this, Does the regulator do 2 things? Does it hold the pressure while keyed off? Or does it just keep the pressure from being too high when running?
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I have a Dodge Caravan 1997 3.0 Ltr, It started to stall out when I slow down. A mechanic friend took it for a spin, and He pointed out that it is the TPS sensor. I brought a couple of used TPS sensors and tried one of them. The stalling is still hapening, I will try the other used sensor soon. I unplugged the TPS wires and the car drove much better, with a little of white smoke and a little rough idle, with a check ingine light on, of course.
I read on this forum and on youtube, that somebody had the stalling issue and it went away after He replaced/cleaned the EGR Valve. Others on youytube advise to replace the MAP sensor.
What do you guys think? Thanks
I read on this forum and on youtube, that somebody had the stalling issue and it went away after He replaced/cleaned the EGR Valve. Others on youytube advise to replace the MAP sensor.
What do you guys think? Thanks
I'm thinking if that regulator does both, that may an issue that could likely be the problem, if it trickled its apparently not holding the pressure, which may be why its not even able to reach the 49psi. The regulator w/ O-ring at Advance and Autozone are both $94.99, Rockauto has them for $72.99, I may try that, I just hate to have to drop the tank :/..lol
I did last Summer on an old Buick, went to change the pump when it wasn't the problem, the fuel filter was clogged so I dropped the tank for nothing.. What that was, you couldn't hear the pump which is obviously why I thought it was dead then.
But hopefully this will fix the intermittent stall on the Caravan.
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Are there a web site, for individuals, that helps locating parts, that would be of a great help. I do not know how to locate many sensors; like the cam sensor of crank sensor,EGR valve etc...
Last edited by mgoma99; 08-18-2015 at 12:18 AM. Reason: spelling correction
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EDIT: I've done a wiggle test on relays, fuses, coil pack connection, plug wires, injectors, nothing has killed it, I was thinking of doing the wiggle test on fuel pump connector since I never have, so I've probably do them later today. I done ordered the pressure regulator
Last edited by mcasdorph; 08-18-2015 at 10:50 AM.