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Old May 1, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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I've replaced several fuel pumps on these trucks, and the only one I will ever put in is from Dodge.
 
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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did you check that circuit like i was talking about? check voltage and all at the pump connector? did you check for resistance down the same circuit?
 
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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https://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen...ls-inside.html

here is the thread i started about the pump issues.
 
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by issakar
did you check that circuit like i was talking about? check voltage and all at the pump connector? did you check for resistance down the same circuit?
I checked for voltage as you described. Only got a small blip on the meter of anything happening.

I had the meter set to 20 Volts Max DC.

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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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small blip? you should be getting 12v at the connector...
 
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Old May 1, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Agreed. Now the question. What's causing it?

I MAY have not had a good connection because, as always, production line quick connects aren't attachment for testing friendly.

At least it seems that way to me. The wire I used to jump to the meter beside the door (so I could watch...working alone) was a little thick in my opinion. So I'm not sure if it was a socketed contact in the connector.

What I did see consistently is number change when I hit the switch, but only like 1 volt or less. (Didn't write it down.)

I don't know or can't say it's a wiring break or resistance issue yet. More testing tomorrow.

I also read in another forum that the sensor in the distributor will keep the computer/ASD from allowing current to the fuel pump if it is bad or out of range.
Opinions?

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Old May 1, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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stand by, modding a wiring diagram a little bit for you
 
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Old May 1, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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ok do this:

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that way you are bypassing all the wiring from the battery to the pump. see if that makes any difference and be careful, lol. you can use pin 6 as the ground too. i just drew the ground wire in 4 cuz thats where the pen ended up.
 
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Old May 1, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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Thanks. I'll jump into it again tomorrow and see what I can get going.

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Hope that was constructive.
 
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Old May 2, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 1992DakotaDead
Ok, here's what I have happening if anyone can help.

The truck will sometimes start/run and sometimes not. There is no rhyme or reason too it. Temperature, long trip. short trip, or anything like that.

Sometimes the pump would "whir" at startup, and sometimes not. Obviously, when it didn't, it would not start and run.

Go out some other time. Start and run fine. When running and driving it never seemed starved for fuel either. Even if you floored it.

I replaced the pump as I have been told this randomness start symptom is often the pump.

Put the cable on, hit the switch, hear the whir, all good.

Put the tools away....go hit the switch, no whir, no run.

There is something that I think is important that I'm not sure what to do about. The "whir" of the pump (when things are working right) is a certain amount of time when you turn the switch on. Maybe 2 to 3 seconds. When I have a situation of "no whir", I get a click back there underneath, consistently, at about the 2 to 3 second mark.


Questions:

How do you test the Auto Shut Down relay?

How do you test the Fuel Pump relay?



Thanks for any ideas. I got to get this truck rolling.
Anyone have any ideas as to what the "click" is that I hear consistently?

Thanks.
 
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