Need new headlight housings again!
All the HID parts I used:
Morimoto Mini H1 bi-xenon projectors
Morimoto H1 35w 4300k bulbs
Morimoto 3Five 35w ballasts
Morimoto Mini Gatling Gun shrouds
Generic ebay relay harness
Last edited by that_guy; Dec 13, 2012 at 09:21 AM.
to switch your headlights that you already have to a xenon HID you dont have to retro fit anything. there are many different companies that mass produce hid conversion kits.
the best place to find them all is on ebay, or amazon.
on ebay motors, in the search bar type in, the year make and model of your vehicle and after that simply type in (hid conversion kit).
every kit on there is plug and play. 25 min job to switch your headlights to HID.
if your trying to retro fit normal 1 or 2 peice headlamps to (projector beam) thats different.
the hid conversion kits will give as good of, if not better field of view as compared to projector beams. and the hid kits you can select the type of colloring of the beam which is also the brightness, and there also xenon bulbs, just like projectors, but projector beams go up to 4500k, and the xenon hid kits range fron 6000k to 10000k!
if i knew how to post a link for this i would.
the kits i am looking at right now range from $35 with free shipping to $60 with free shipping. and thats in the usa. so theres no customs waiting time period. and seeing as how there a tublar gas lit bulb they dont heat up so they wont melt your housings.
the best place to find them all is on ebay, or amazon.
on ebay motors, in the search bar type in, the year make and model of your vehicle and after that simply type in (hid conversion kit).
every kit on there is plug and play. 25 min job to switch your headlights to HID.
if your trying to retro fit normal 1 or 2 peice headlamps to (projector beam) thats different.
the hid conversion kits will give as good of, if not better field of view as compared to projector beams. and the hid kits you can select the type of colloring of the beam which is also the brightness, and there also xenon bulbs, just like projectors, but projector beams go up to 4500k, and the xenon hid kits range fron 6000k to 10000k!
if i knew how to post a link for this i would.
the kits i am looking at right now range from $35 with free shipping to $60 with free shipping. and thats in the usa. so theres no customs waiting time period. and seeing as how there a tublar gas lit bulb they dont heat up so they wont melt your housings.
to switch your headlights that you already have to a xenon HID you dont have to retro fit anything. there are many different companies that mass produce hid conversion kits.
the best place to find them all is on ebay, or amazon.
on ebay motors, in the search bar type in, the year make and model of your vehicle and after that simply type in (hid conversion kit).
every kit on there is plug and play. 25 min job to switch your headlights to HID.
if your trying to retro fit normal 1 or 2 peice headlamps to (projector beam) thats different.
the hid conversion kits will give as good of, if not better field of view as compared to projector beams. and the hid kits you can select the type of colloring of the beam which is also the brightness, and there also xenon bulbs, just like projectors, but projector beams go up to 4500k, and the xenon hid kits range fron 6000k to 10000k!
if i knew how to post a link for this i would.
the kits i am looking at right now range from $35 with free shipping to $60 with free shipping. and thats in the usa. so theres no customs waiting time period. and seeing as how there a tublar gas lit bulb they dont heat up so they wont melt your housings.
the best place to find them all is on ebay, or amazon.
on ebay motors, in the search bar type in, the year make and model of your vehicle and after that simply type in (hid conversion kit).
every kit on there is plug and play. 25 min job to switch your headlights to HID.
if your trying to retro fit normal 1 or 2 peice headlamps to (projector beam) thats different.
the hid conversion kits will give as good of, if not better field of view as compared to projector beams. and the hid kits you can select the type of colloring of the beam which is also the brightness, and there also xenon bulbs, just like projectors, but projector beams go up to 4500k, and the xenon hid kits range fron 6000k to 10000k!
if i knew how to post a link for this i would.
the kits i am looking at right now range from $35 with free shipping to $60 with free shipping. and thats in the usa. so theres no customs waiting time period. and seeing as how there a tublar gas lit bulb they dont heat up so they wont melt your housings.
Not trying to be a dick, but pretty much everything you just said is completely WRONG.
Pretty much all hid kits on ebay are chinese crap that won't work properly.
If you buy pnp hid kits and put them in halogen housings your beam pattern will most likely be crap and you will be blinding opposing drivers with glare.
pnp bulbs in halogen housing will absolutely not be better than projectors and your field of vision will be no better than with halogens, if not worse.
Yes they do make projector bulbs in temps above 4300k, they're just not as common because 4300k is the most light you can get. 4300k is the most lumens you will get period. Any higher and you're loosing lumens. The drop from 4300k to 5000k is a few hundred lumens as is the drop to 6000k, and beyond that it just drops like a rock. There's a reason all factory hid systems are right around or at 4300k. If you get anything over 4300k the amount of usable light goes down, and it's harder for the human eye to see blue light than white or yellow light. 4300k has a slight tint of yellow and most lumens, 5000k is pure white with a few hundred less lumens than 4300k, 6000k (the absolute highest you should ever go) is white with a hint of blue and a few hundred less lumens than 5000k. Any higher than that and you're just wasting time and money, and risking attention from the cops because blue headlights are illegal.
And yes HID bulbs do make heat. 35w makes less heat than halogens and is what you should probably stick with. 55w makes more heat than halogens and could possibly melt your housings. Just wanted to add that all factory hid systems are 35w also.
beat me to it. as above
The color range is the 3000k to 10000k isn't brightness, it's color. To see how bright lights are the higher the lumen rating the brighter. So as previously stated 4300k is daylight. Anything higher won't be brighter just gives you that dumb blue and purple color which suck for weather.
The color range is the 3000k to 10000k isn't brightness, it's color. To see how bright lights are the higher the lumen rating the brighter. So as previously stated 4300k is daylight. Anything higher won't be brighter just gives you that dumb blue and purple color which suck for weather.
look you dicks. and i dont give a damn if you boot me off of here either.
i didnt go thru 4 years at R.I.T for enginering, and then spent 6 years in the marines as an engineer to be told stuff that you havent spent a decade of your damn life working on.
the hid kits that i spoke of are manufactured in the u.s.a. and yes some are from overseas.
projector beams dont give you the best light and the most lumens. its all prefered by the person. hid kits are for high definition lighting. and the higher k you go the less light out put (lumens) you get because of the collor range of the bulb.
4300k lights are called daylight bulbs. it doesnt mean that thats the brightest and best lighting out there.
just because thats what you have doesnt mean that its the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the hid bulbs that range from 5000k and 6000k, will give you much higher and brighter field of view than 4300k bulbs. and it doesnt matter that you have a concave lens either.
also in my wifes subaru impreza she has 6000k hid bulbs (factory) and they dont produce much to any heat, and there especially bright.
dont talk crap about someone especiall when you dont know what your talking about.
and further more i find especiall offensive that you have singled me out, when i have spent most of my adult life studying things like this, and have spent 6 years of my life protecting your rights as an american citizen.
befor you start talking crap to someone about what you claim to know, maybe you should do some research.
i didnt go thru 4 years at R.I.T for enginering, and then spent 6 years in the marines as an engineer to be told stuff that you havent spent a decade of your damn life working on.
the hid kits that i spoke of are manufactured in the u.s.a. and yes some are from overseas.
projector beams dont give you the best light and the most lumens. its all prefered by the person. hid kits are for high definition lighting. and the higher k you go the less light out put (lumens) you get because of the collor range of the bulb.
4300k lights are called daylight bulbs. it doesnt mean that thats the brightest and best lighting out there.
just because thats what you have doesnt mean that its the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the hid bulbs that range from 5000k and 6000k, will give you much higher and brighter field of view than 4300k bulbs. and it doesnt matter that you have a concave lens either.
also in my wifes subaru impreza she has 6000k hid bulbs (factory) and they dont produce much to any heat, and there especially bright.
dont talk crap about someone especiall when you dont know what your talking about.
and further more i find especiall offensive that you have singled me out, when i have spent most of my adult life studying things like this, and have spent 6 years of my life protecting your rights as an american citizen.
befor you start talking crap to someone about what you claim to know, maybe you should do some research.
Last edited by krupaeric; Dec 14, 2012 at 11:24 PM.
look you dicks. and i dont give a damn if you boot me off of here either.
i didnt go thru 4 years at R.I.T for enginering, and then spent 6 years in the marines as an engineer to be told stuff that you havent spent a decade of your damn life working on.
the hid kits that i spoke of are manufactured in the u.s.a. and yes some are from overseas.
projector beams dont give you the best light and the most lumens. its all prefered by the person. hid kits are for high definition lighting. and the higher k you go the less light out put (lumens) you get because of the collor range of the bulb.
4300k lights are called daylight bulbs. it doesnt mean that thats the brightest and best lighting out there.
just because thats what you have doesnt mean that its the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the hid bulbs that range from 5000k and 6000k, will give you much higher and brighter field of view than 4300k bulbs. and it doesnt matter that you have a concave lens either.
also in my wifes subaru impreza she has 6000k hid bulbs (factory) and they dont produce much to any heat, and there especially bright.
dont talk crap about someone especiall when you dont know what your talking about.
and further more i find especiall offensive that you have singled me out, when i have spent most of my adult life studying things like this, and have spent 6 years of my life protecting your rights as an american citizen.
befor you start talking crap to someone about what you claim to know, maybe you should do some research.
i didnt go thru 4 years at R.I.T for enginering, and then spent 6 years in the marines as an engineer to be told stuff that you havent spent a decade of your damn life working on.
the hid kits that i spoke of are manufactured in the u.s.a. and yes some are from overseas.
projector beams dont give you the best light and the most lumens. its all prefered by the person. hid kits are for high definition lighting. and the higher k you go the less light out put (lumens) you get because of the collor range of the bulb.
4300k lights are called daylight bulbs. it doesnt mean that thats the brightest and best lighting out there.
just because thats what you have doesnt mean that its the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the hid bulbs that range from 5000k and 6000k, will give you much higher and brighter field of view than 4300k bulbs. and it doesnt matter that you have a concave lens either.
also in my wifes subaru impreza she has 6000k hid bulbs (factory) and they dont produce much to any heat, and there especially bright.
dont talk crap about someone especiall when you dont know what your talking about.
and further more i find especiall offensive that you have singled me out, when i have spent most of my adult life studying things like this, and have spent 6 years of my life protecting your rights as an american citizen.
befor you start talking crap to someone about what you claim to know, maybe you should do some research.
Well if that's what they taught you, they taught you incorrect information.
HID kits in a headlight designed for halogen bulbs will NEVER give you as good of a light output as a light designed for hids, plain and simple. And, yes, at the moment hid projectors will give you the best light ouput that you can get on cars.
Right around 4300k is simply the most lumens you can get from an HID bulb, which is why ALL factory hid systems are right around 4300k bulbs at 35w. 6000k bulbs would never be factory equipment because they have a tint of blue to them, and blue headlights are technically illegal for road use, so someone else definitely changed those bulbs, because subaru is not going to ship their vehicles with headlights that don't meet dot regulations.
If you do in fact know how an hid bulb works than you know that they make light with a continuous electric arc between two electrodes, through the capsule containing ionized metallic salts. Quite simply that makes heat. HID bulbs most definitely make heat. 35w hids tend to make a bit less heat than halogens, and 55w hids make more heat than halogens.
Finally, I wasn't singling you out, I was only correcting the mis-information that you posted so that others who may not know much about hids don't get the wrong information, it was not talking crap about you. And this has nothing to do with your military service, which I by the way do appreciate just as much as the next guy. Maybe you're the one that needs to go do more research about this before you talk crap.
i will admit that i was wrong about the hid lumen strength, but my wifes vehicle is a 2011 subaru impreza and we bought it last year brand new from the dealership. and i had to replace the bulbs this past spring, which i went directly to the dealership to get because they were actuially cheaper.
and my education at R.I.T didnt teach me wrong. R.I.T is a world renound school for technology.
i coppied this off of the ny dmv website. after RESEARCHING.
(using projector beams on an un-equipped reflector car is illegal and blinds oncoming drivers. That special coating in projector beam headlights helps to prevent the light from blinding oncoming traffic in cars.) ie. (retro fitting stock housings)
(it is federally illegal to retro fit stock housing with projector beams.
projector beam headlights are specificily made with a non reflective coating. although the lens kits are available on the market today and available in stores and on websites, they are made for off road purposes only. they are not dot approved, they are not manufactured with the non reflective coating which is required for dot approval)
this is coppied off of a scientific america comparison test.
(What are the pros and cons of HIDs vs Projectors?
To me, projector lights in general don't throw out as much light as regular HIDs. Oncoming cars with projector lights don't put out as bright of light as oncoming HID vehicles.
Are Projector style lights really better than HIDs, or is it just that they are currently the "cool" thing to have because they are newer and look cooler?
Studies proved that hids put out just as much light as projectors, projectors are more focused on the road right in front of you, as where vehicles equiped with hids have a wider longer beam. which allows you to see the side of road, to watch out for those pesky critters and pedestrians. Compared to projector beams, which acuially in most states you can only have projectors on a high beam and not on both high and low. having projectors on highways and thru populated areas is illegal, except for on empty roads due to there blinding effect, most all projector beams are equiped with a single reflected low beam.
the beams lengths were as followed.
average hid high-156m
average hid low-90m
average projector high-140m
average projector low-60m
in our tests hid vehicles were rated- 8.5 out 10.
projectors were rated- 7 out of 10.
vehicle used-
2010 chevy impala
2010 ford mustang gt
2010 dodge ram 2500
2010 nissan titan )
i didnt copy the whole thing just some key parts i thought were needed for this discussion.
i hope this helps ppl when deciding what they want.
and my education at R.I.T didnt teach me wrong. R.I.T is a world renound school for technology.
i coppied this off of the ny dmv website. after RESEARCHING.
(using projector beams on an un-equipped reflector car is illegal and blinds oncoming drivers. That special coating in projector beam headlights helps to prevent the light from blinding oncoming traffic in cars.) ie. (retro fitting stock housings)
(it is federally illegal to retro fit stock housing with projector beams.
projector beam headlights are specificily made with a non reflective coating. although the lens kits are available on the market today and available in stores and on websites, they are made for off road purposes only. they are not dot approved, they are not manufactured with the non reflective coating which is required for dot approval)
this is coppied off of a scientific america comparison test.
(What are the pros and cons of HIDs vs Projectors?
To me, projector lights in general don't throw out as much light as regular HIDs. Oncoming cars with projector lights don't put out as bright of light as oncoming HID vehicles.
Are Projector style lights really better than HIDs, or is it just that they are currently the "cool" thing to have because they are newer and look cooler?
Studies proved that hids put out just as much light as projectors, projectors are more focused on the road right in front of you, as where vehicles equiped with hids have a wider longer beam. which allows you to see the side of road, to watch out for those pesky critters and pedestrians. Compared to projector beams, which acuially in most states you can only have projectors on a high beam and not on both high and low. having projectors on highways and thru populated areas is illegal, except for on empty roads due to there blinding effect, most all projector beams are equiped with a single reflected low beam.
the beams lengths were as followed.
average hid high-156m
average hid low-90m
average projector high-140m
average projector low-60m
in our tests hid vehicles were rated- 8.5 out 10.
projectors were rated- 7 out of 10.
vehicle used-
2010 chevy impala
2010 ford mustang gt
2010 dodge ram 2500
2010 nissan titan )
i didnt copy the whole thing just some key parts i thought were needed for this discussion.
i hope this helps ppl when deciding what they want.
Last edited by krupaeric; Dec 16, 2012 at 02:55 AM.
Right.
As for my story, after having my headlights properly adjusted I absolutely love these 1pc Depo housings. They jiggle a little on bumps but for the quality of light i'm getting I can certainly live with it! I would highly recommend them to anyone looking to replace their OEM housings. Next, I need to either hardcore clean my fog light housings, or get new ones to match the clean look of the new headlights.
As for my story, after having my headlights properly adjusted I absolutely love these 1pc Depo housings. They jiggle a little on bumps but for the quality of light i'm getting I can certainly live with it! I would highly recommend them to anyone looking to replace their OEM housings. Next, I need to either hardcore clean my fog light housings, or get new ones to match the clean look of the new headlights.
thats cool mopar man, glad you found something you like.
and (that guy) go to www.hidkitxenonlights.com.
what you wrote about hid kits having ionized salt gass is incorrect, as well as you saying that the 55w hid kits produce more heat than conventional bulbs.
the 35w and 55w kits produce siginificantly less heat than conventional bulbs.
and the 35w and 55w kits use xenon gass inside of them.
also the 55w 4300k kits produce the most light out of any other light source. in oem housings.
the kits are also german enginered. and made in germany. not an oriental made product.
there bulbs are guranteed to last 10,000hr.
and (that guy) go to www.hidkitxenonlights.com.
what you wrote about hid kits having ionized salt gass is incorrect, as well as you saying that the 55w hid kits produce more heat than conventional bulbs.
the 35w and 55w kits produce siginificantly less heat than conventional bulbs.
and the 35w and 55w kits use xenon gass inside of them.
also the 55w 4300k kits produce the most light out of any other light source. in oem housings.
the kits are also german enginered. and made in germany. not an oriental made product.
there bulbs are guranteed to last 10,000hr.






