Missing Cylinder
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Missing Cylinder
Hello, I'm new to the group but i already have a question. I've owned Dodges for the last 30 years, but i just bought a 2000 Durango with 122,000 miles, which is the newest one i've ever owned. i only had it 2 weeks when the check engine light came on. i took it to AZ, they put it on their tester and said it registered a miss on #4. i replaced the spark plugs, wires, rotor button, and distributor cap. 3 weeks and about 1000 miles later the light came back on. Got it tested and the same results; a miss on #4. Does anyone have any ideas?
thanks in advance!
thanks in advance!
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#3
RE: Missing Cylinder
Make sure the wires are following the new TSB for the plug wires. If they are clear of each other, and you can eliminate the wires and the TSB as an issue, you have other issues. Check down the TB for oil, lots-o-oil (a plenum gasket issue) which could be affecting #4 if the leak is near there. Also, pull the #4 plug and take a look at it. How does it look? Fouled, burnt, normal?
IndyD
IndyD
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#5
RE: Missing Cylinder
If you but crapy wires on it or the wrong spark plugs in it that could be your problem. Go with Champions, regular (OEM) or Truck Plugs. Also get OEM wires or something like MSD or some just as good. Also it could be a injector. Also try the plenum gasket issue. As for a TSB, I have no idea what he is talking about.[sm=dontgetit.gif]
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RE: Missing Cylinder
Now you'll get the idea Hshocker... lol
http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1998/18-48-98/18-48-98.htm
The TSB came out early on for the Ds and STILL APPLIES to all Gen1s with the 5.2s and the 5.9s. The plugs will experience odd issues and pinging because of spark crossing the wires and other engine items if they are not routed in this recommended fashion. DISCLAIMER: If you have a super set of wires, super set of plug looms and wire management, you should be fine without moving the wires to match the TSB.
ALSO, make sure you are NOT NOT NOT running Platinum plugs in the Magnum. Stick with the OEM Champions or better yet, switch to the Autolite 3923s. Yes the Autolite 3923s. Gapped properly to .040, the 3923s should outperform any plug you can put in there. No book will tell you about the Autolites and they do not cross referrence to the Durango. HOWEVER, hundreds of literate and well informed D owners from other forums run the 3923s for better performance and less/no pinging issues regardless of fuel octane used. Myself included (the song "I'm a believer" is playing virtually in the background )
HTH
IndyDurango
http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1998/18-48-98/18-48-98.htm
The TSB came out early on for the Ds and STILL APPLIES to all Gen1s with the 5.2s and the 5.9s. The plugs will experience odd issues and pinging because of spark crossing the wires and other engine items if they are not routed in this recommended fashion. DISCLAIMER: If you have a super set of wires, super set of plug looms and wire management, you should be fine without moving the wires to match the TSB.
ALSO, make sure you are NOT NOT NOT running Platinum plugs in the Magnum. Stick with the OEM Champions or better yet, switch to the Autolite 3923s. Yes the Autolite 3923s. Gapped properly to .040, the 3923s should outperform any plug you can put in there. No book will tell you about the Autolites and they do not cross referrence to the Durango. HOWEVER, hundreds of literate and well informed D owners from other forums run the 3923s for better performance and less/no pinging issues regardless of fuel octane used. Myself included (the song "I'm a believer" is playing virtually in the background )
HTH
IndyDurango
#7
RE: Missing Cylinder
When the check engine light comes on is it raining/wet out? The sparkplug wires on my durango kept getting condensation on them while parked overnight and would prevent the vehicle from starting unless I took a heatgun (blowdryer) and dried the sparkplug wires. The wire routing TSB probably would have helped, but I sprayed the wires with a wire dryer (made by STP, I think it was silicone based) and it has worked well so far.
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#8
RE: Missing Cylinder
ORIGINAL: 89Daytona
When the check engine light comes on is it raining/wet out? The sparkplug wires on my durango kept getting condensation on them while parked overnight and would prevent the vehicle from starting unless I took a heatgun (blowdryer) and dried the sparkplug wires. The wire routing TSB probably would have helped, but I sprayed the wires with a wire dryer (made by STP, I think it was silicone based) and it has worked well so far.
When the check engine light comes on is it raining/wet out? The sparkplug wires on my durango kept getting condensation on them while parked overnight and would prevent the vehicle from starting unless I took a heatgun (blowdryer) and dried the sparkplug wires. The wire routing TSB probably would have helped, but I sprayed the wires with a wire dryer (made by STP, I think it was silicone based) and it has worked well so far.
A wet connection at the point of contact to the plug itself (from being old/or not seated on the plug properly) and a wet connection at the disty will certainly cause issues.
Your spray has sealed up one of those three issues above. I'd suggest a good new set of plug wires and not some AutoZone value line crap. Perhaps Mopar Performance, MSD or Magnecor (I have the later).
When you get your new wires, follow the TSB.
HTH,
IndyD
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RE: Missing Cylinder
ORIGINAL: 89Daytona
They were brand new plugwires. I tired 2 different brands one from Advance Auto and one from NAPA, they both did the same thing.
They were brand new plugwires. I tired 2 different brands one from Advance Auto and one from NAPA, they both did the same thing.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, you haven't connected something quite right either time and continue with the same error. Either the plug isn't plugged into the wires correctly, or there is an issue around the disty. Dew will not cause that type of issue on the wire bodies alone. I can take a hose and wash down a running engine with no problems and that's of course a lot more H20 that cendensation and dew.
Are you using preformed and premade lengths or are you cutting the wires to fit yourself?
IndyD