neons vs. civics-dispute
ORIGINAL: neoncrazy101
tired of these types of threads but oh well its a forum full of people but anyways lol. he may be able to get 500HP out of one. but with how much money AND how much torque? 200?
how long would it last? and i dont see how 11psi could add 200HP 
tired of these types of threads but oh well its a forum full of people but anyways lol. he may be able to get 500HP out of one. but with how much money AND how much torque? 200?
ORIGINAL: GrApHite03
show me a neon put 11spi to a stock bottom end and make 313whp... The civic i am referring to is only a 1.6l.
show me a neon put 11spi to a stock bottom end and make 313whp... The civic i am referring to is only a 1.6l.

If i wasn't so paranoid about it getting stolen, i would probably trade my neon project for a civic project. Plus a fast neon is not common here in Hawaii. 300+ whp civics are running all over this island never mind back home on the mainland where i used to live.
Whether or not you like civics or hondas, you have to give credit where credit is due.
k3v
BTW, here is my buddy mikes civic i was referring too...
Engine:
1996 SIRIII Swap JDM B16
GSR cams
Garrett T3/T04E Turbocharger
Custom 3" Downpipe
Hallman Boost Controller
RC Engineering 750cc Injectors
Custom Manifold
Tial 38mm Wastegate
Hondata S300 Engine Management System
Custom Intercooler Piping
more **** too but you get the picture
313whp 228ftlbs @ 11-12 psi



and a vid of it running a 03 Cobra... http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...MikesCivic.flv
A couple of more stock block hondas in New england you don't want to meet at a street light...
stock type s in an eg civic
http://www.turbooptions.com/video/im...20tsh_0001.wmv
Boosted 4 door teg with stock lsvtec
http://www.turbooptions.com/video/booooooooooosted.wmv
Can't do that with a neon stock block... lol
Engine:
1996 SIRIII Swap JDM B16
GSR cams
Garrett T3/T04E Turbocharger
Custom 3" Downpipe
Hallman Boost Controller
RC Engineering 750cc Injectors
Custom Manifold
Tial 38mm Wastegate
Hondata S300 Engine Management System
Custom Intercooler Piping
more **** too but you get the picture
313whp 228ftlbs @ 11-12 psi



and a vid of it running a 03 Cobra... http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...MikesCivic.flv
A couple of more stock block hondas in New england you don't want to meet at a street light...
stock type s in an eg civic
http://www.turbooptions.com/video/im...20tsh_0001.wmv
Boosted 4 door teg with stock lsvtec
http://www.turbooptions.com/video/booooooooooosted.wmv
Can't do that with a neon stock block... lol
ORIGINAL: justinsanders
yea i dont either but everyone underestimates the neons too much and it makes me mad. heres his latest reply back
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well wat i really ment was that theres alot more choices for civics but ok ill play ur lil game. u can fix a honda with its stock 2.4 engine to get over 540 hp b4 nitrous. main cus off the comps and chip availible for them.
yea i dont either but everyone underestimates the neons too much and it makes me mad. heres his latest reply back
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well wat i really ment was that theres alot more choices for civics but ok ill play ur lil game. u can fix a honda with its stock 2.4 engine to get over 540 hp b4 nitrous. main cus off the comps and chip availible for them.
This is a Neon/Dodge Forum so F U CK HONDA.
I beat them all the time in stock Neon form so who gives a dead mooses last **** how fast you can make a Civic if stock vs they get owned, Money determines how fast your car is and frankly the Neon's SOHC and DOHC engines are a better base for build up and allready are fast enough to own Civic's because Neon engines have more Torque, HP means **** Torque moves Cars, a balenced engine between torque and HP is what the Neon engines were about.
I beat them all the time in stock Neon form so who gives a dead mooses last **** how fast you can make a Civic if stock vs they get owned, Money determines how fast your car is and frankly the Neon's SOHC and DOHC engines are a better base for build up and allready are fast enough to own Civic's because Neon engines have more Torque, HP means **** Torque moves Cars, a balenced engine between torque and HP is what the Neon engines were about.
and a vid of it running a 03 Cobra...
ORIGINAL: Slashwannabe
This is a Neon/Dodge Forum so F U CK HONDA.
I beat them all the time in stock Neon form so who gives a dead mooses last **** how fast you can make a Civic if stock vs they get owned, Money determines how fast your car is and frankly the Neon's SOHC and DOHC engines are a better base for build up and allready are fast enough to own Civic's because Neon engines have more Torque, HP means **** Torque moves Cars, a balenced engine between torque and HP is what the Neon engines were about.
This is a Neon/Dodge Forum so F U CK HONDA.
I beat them all the time in stock Neon form so who gives a dead mooses last **** how fast you can make a Civic if stock vs they get owned, Money determines how fast your car is and frankly the Neon's SOHC and DOHC engines are a better base for build up and allready are fast enough to own Civic's because Neon engines have more Torque, HP means **** Torque moves Cars, a balenced engine between torque and HP is what the Neon engines were about.
The Ferrari F430 makes 483hp and 343tq. It must suck too...
The Murcielago LP640 is 640hp 487tq. No torque either... what junk!
have fun in your honda hating guys...
ORIGINAL: 12 volt
oohhhh my god a civic has no chance aginst a cobra . the guy is the mustang was probably doing the smart thing and letting off ......keep the racing on the track before someone gets killed for some stupid ****
oohhhh my god a civic has no chance aginst a cobra . the guy is the mustang was probably doing the smart thing and letting off ......keep the racing on the track before someone gets killed for some stupid ****
ORIGINAL: GrApHite03
the difference between a true car enthusiast and a brand ***** right there... From that comment alone i know for a fact you know nothing about engines. You have alot to learn young one. Do you know why a Honda motor has lower torque than most? I'll give you a hint, when the last time you saw a neon rev to 9k+?
The Ferrari F430 makes 483hp and 343tq. It must suck too...
The Murcielago LP640 is 640hp 487tq. No torque either... what junk!
have fun in your honda hating guys...
ORIGINAL: Slashwannabe
This is a Neon/Dodge Forum so F U CK HONDA.
I beat them all the time in stock Neon form so who gives a dead mooses last **** how fast you can make a Civic if stock vs they get owned, Money determines how fast your car is and frankly the Neon's SOHC and DOHC engines are a better base for build up and allready are fast enough to own Civic's because Neon engines have more Torque, HP means **** Torque moves Cars, a balenced engine between torque and HP is what the Neon engines were about.
This is a Neon/Dodge Forum so F U CK HONDA.
I beat them all the time in stock Neon form so who gives a dead mooses last **** how fast you can make a Civic if stock vs they get owned, Money determines how fast your car is and frankly the Neon's SOHC and DOHC engines are a better base for build up and allready are fast enough to own Civic's because Neon engines have more Torque, HP means **** Torque moves Cars, a balenced engine between torque and HP is what the Neon engines were about.
The Ferrari F430 makes 483hp and 343tq. It must suck too...
The Murcielago LP640 is 640hp 487tq. No torque either... what junk!
have fun in your honda hating guys...
Young one? excuse me but I know for a fact I've got underwear older than you. I have never once given my age.
Why are you even comparing those exotic Cars to Neon's?First of All those carshave more than 112lbs of Torque when your torque is as high as thoseyoudon't have to worry about moving a 2600lb car. TheCivic has 112lbs of Torque and 124hp while the Neon SOHC has 132hp and 131lbs of Torquecompare apples with apples you dumb ***.
Its obvious nothing sinks into that thick skull of yours, I'd rather have a "overall" more powerfull engine than an engine that is just all Horse Power and no Torque or all Torque and no HP, You need a somewhat evenbalence between the 2 factors to make a truely Superior Performance Engine and in overall performance the Neon Engine is Superior to the Honda. I think you should go back to school and learn about what Torque and Horse Power is, you obviously have no clue what those two do realative to each other.
You want to talk about an engine that will own the fk out of a Ferrari engine look no further than the factory 426 Race Hemi of 1966 on up to 1971 making 623hp and 638lbs of Torque which would kill the living **** out of a Ferrari or Lamborghini engine. I don't give a dead mooses last **** if a Honda can rev to 9,000 Rpm, it needs to with those small tires and its gearing all because it does't make enough Torque at managable RPM's. The Civics tires are smaller thantheNeons mostly to offset the difference in the lack of Torque from that piece of **** Japanese Engine.
Go suck my ***, I've been building Chryslerengines for over 15 years and I don't need some loser red neck trying to tell me how an engine works, you just proved how stupid you are by comapring a Ferrari to a Neon and Civic.
Get your Rice off my Grass.



