neons vs. civics-dispute
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
Some people here should learn to grow up and stop being so childish and arrogent, its not impressing anyone. We all drive Neons for gods sake, how about you stop acting like immature teenagers and actually respond to some form of reason and/or logic and actually READ whats being posted. Otherwise, you should let the adults have a discussion and keep the adolescent nonsense to yourselves.
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
ORIGINAL: 96ACR*
here is something for you "ricers"Take a basic 5 speed DOHC Neon (for this example, we will use an inexpensive, lighter weight non-RT, say a 1996 model). Add an HAHN bolt-on Stage II turbosystem, a set of slicks and a free flowing exhaust system. Now go to the drag strip and run 13.00 second quarter miles @ 105 MPH on 93-octane pump gas! Stock Internals!!The Hahn neon does10.55 @ 139 in the 1/4 mile! Yet still driveable to the track, all that needs to be done is put on slicks, add a few gallons of race gas and then ruin a few V8 racers' day. All that needs to be done then is just reinstall the street tires and drive it 60 miles back home. Lots of street prowling for unsuspecting victims goes on in between drag strip visits. Proof that if you want to go fast, you don't need a Honda or a huge budget to do it.
Go tohttp://www.hahnracecraft.com/auto/neon/neon.htm and do some reading up before u think your "ricer" is the ****
here is something for you "ricers"Take a basic 5 speed DOHC Neon (for this example, we will use an inexpensive, lighter weight non-RT, say a 1996 model). Add an HAHN bolt-on Stage II turbosystem, a set of slicks and a free flowing exhaust system. Now go to the drag strip and run 13.00 second quarter miles @ 105 MPH on 93-octane pump gas! Stock Internals!!The Hahn neon does10.55 @ 139 in the 1/4 mile! Yet still driveable to the track, all that needs to be done is put on slicks, add a few gallons of race gas and then ruin a few V8 racers' day. All that needs to be done then is just reinstall the street tires and drive it 60 miles back home. Lots of street prowling for unsuspecting victims goes on in between drag strip visits. Proof that if you want to go fast, you don't need a Honda or a huge budget to do it.
Go tohttp://www.hahnracecraft.com/auto/neon/neon.htm and do some reading up before u think your "ricer" is the ****
13's thats it? That white coupe i posted is running a DIY turbo kit with cams... thats it. runs mid to high 11's all day.
Here is Trick Engineerings shop car at New England dragway in NH. Just like Hahn, but Trick does drive it home.
http://trickengineering.com/images/videos/10andGo.jpg
Also, you say "Proof that if you want to go fast, you don't need a Honda or a huge budget to do it."
Not once did anybody say you have to have a honda to go fast!? Who are you arguing with on that point?
ORIGINAL: 03neonRT
Some people here should learn to grow up and stop being so childish and arrogent, its not impressing anyone. We all drive Neons for gods sake, how about you stop acting like immature teenagers and actually respond to some form of reason and/or logic and actually READ whats being posted. Otherwise, you should let the adults have a discussion and keep the adolescent nonsense to yourselves.
Some people here should learn to grow up and stop being so childish and arrogent, its not impressing anyone. We all drive Neons for gods sake, how about you stop acting like immature teenagers and actually respond to some form of reason and/or logic and actually READ whats being posted. Otherwise, you should let the adults have a discussion and keep the adolescent nonsense to yourselves.
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
ORIGINAL: GrApHite03
your funny...
13's thats it? That white coupe i posted is running a DIY turbo kit with cams... thats it. runs mid to high 11's all day.
your funny...
13's thats it? That white coupe i posted is running a DIY turbo kit with cams... thats it. runs mid to high 11's all day.
i'd really like to see this to believe it since my buddy has a JDM GSR was looking into a kit almost exactly like the "DIY" kit you posted and was only going to get around 275hp
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
ORIGINAL: 95neonriceeater
are there any quarter mile videos/slips?
i'd really like to see this to believe it since my buddy has a JDM GSR was looking into a kit almost exactly like the "DIY" kit you posted and was only going to get around 275hp
ORIGINAL: GrApHite03
your funny...
13's thats it? That white coupe i posted is running a DIY turbo kit with cams... thats it. runs mid to high 11's all day.
your funny...
13's thats it? That white coupe i posted is running a DIY turbo kit with cams... thats it. runs mid to high 11's all day.
i'd really like to see this to believe it since my buddy has a JDM GSR was looking into a kit almost exactly like the "DIY" kit you posted and was only going to get around 275hp
As far as 275... it can get you some good times. There is another kid on my forums that is running a junk yard turbo set-up and running 12's. All on stock sleeves.
this is is sig:
Junkyard Ls-Turbo 273hp 226tq @ 10psi
12.5s on street tires [9 psi]
11.9s on slicks [9 psi]
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
ORIGINAL: 96ACR*
The Hahn neon does10.55 @ 139 in the 1/4 mile!
The Hahn neon does10.55 @ 139 in the 1/4 mile!
The 13 seconds is on a stock neon engine with the Hahn Stage 2.
Graphite, you said
Put 11psi on a stock bottom end and make over 300whp/228wtq.
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I wasnt argueing with anyone on the you dont need a honda to go fast... its just people who own hondas and crap think that there car is the only car you can tune.. and anything else is just crap... i was just trying to show there wrong.. sure a neon may be a "throw away" car and cheap..but there a fun car to drive and are easy to tune just like any honda.. but hondas are cheap and throw away cars to..i see just as many hondas as anything else in the junk yard or for sale. so people who own hondas need to stop thinking that there car is the only thing that can be tuned...cuz anythingcan be tuned. Oh and here is a clip of my dads buddies car.. you wanna see fast look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpoagY5zVaE
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
I've owned a 96Civic before and I can tell you it was no contest betweenmy Neon, Especially when my Girl Friend was driving my Neon and the Neon still won and I consider myself somewhat of a good driver.
The Neon is far superior in stock form. I do not like to compare a built Civic to a stock Neon or visa versaits senseless. My point of view is anything can be made to do anything with the right amount of money and know how. I guess what got me wrong about the Civic ismine blew up on me after 61,000 miles on the odometerand in contrast my Neon has almost 130,000 miles with the only engine repair being the water pump, not to mention my severe faith in Mopars seeing that I own a 1984 Dodge Van with a 360 v-8 that has 275,000miles on it and my parents van has a 318 with 334,000 miles on it and not one engine repair done to either, Also my brothers 2.5 Turbo Acclaim (180,000miles) took such huge beatings and kept on goingwhile delivering huge performance for a 4,000lb car. Every import I've owned blew up on me in one form or another from Rods going through the block to crankshafts tearing their way into a main journal and ect. I just never had a very good experience with imports, EXCEPT for my brothers Mitsubishi 3000 GT, that car will plant you in the seat and take a beating as well and go figure its a Mitsubishi (owned by Chrysler when it was designed!).
ESTNeon, I have a 1968 Plymouth GTX with a 440 4 speed, but restoring it the correct way will eat at least $15,000 of money I don't have, so I'll stick with the Gas friendly Neon for now.
I'm not trying to **** anybody off but its just been my opinion that Honda's are overrated due to my expirence in owning one and beating countless. As for the disposable car thing, yeah they Neons probably are but so are Civics and I love the design of the Neon and I thinkthe looks of a Neon beat the looks of a Civic and any car from Bently,BMW and Roles Royce andalmost any Europeaneconomy and midsizecar. To me what makes a car valuable is its looks craftmenshipand how it makes me feel., I think the Neon is built well and itlooks good and it makes me feel good the imports have been done before its time to fight back with American stuff, the Ricer Culture has really made the streets of America a joke, What happened to the days whenyou could pull up to the stop light and the car next to you was packing aV-8 that does 13 second quartersstock?. Thats another thread but I think each to their own, when I'm beating Civics with my Neon it doesnt matter much what people think.
Death to the Fart Can Muffler!
The Neon is far superior in stock form. I do not like to compare a built Civic to a stock Neon or visa versaits senseless. My point of view is anything can be made to do anything with the right amount of money and know how. I guess what got me wrong about the Civic ismine blew up on me after 61,000 miles on the odometerand in contrast my Neon has almost 130,000 miles with the only engine repair being the water pump, not to mention my severe faith in Mopars seeing that I own a 1984 Dodge Van with a 360 v-8 that has 275,000miles on it and my parents van has a 318 with 334,000 miles on it and not one engine repair done to either, Also my brothers 2.5 Turbo Acclaim (180,000miles) took such huge beatings and kept on goingwhile delivering huge performance for a 4,000lb car. Every import I've owned blew up on me in one form or another from Rods going through the block to crankshafts tearing their way into a main journal and ect. I just never had a very good experience with imports, EXCEPT for my brothers Mitsubishi 3000 GT, that car will plant you in the seat and take a beating as well and go figure its a Mitsubishi (owned by Chrysler when it was designed!).
ESTNeon, I have a 1968 Plymouth GTX with a 440 4 speed, but restoring it the correct way will eat at least $15,000 of money I don't have, so I'll stick with the Gas friendly Neon for now.
I'm not trying to **** anybody off but its just been my opinion that Honda's are overrated due to my expirence in owning one and beating countless. As for the disposable car thing, yeah they Neons probably are but so are Civics and I love the design of the Neon and I thinkthe looks of a Neon beat the looks of a Civic and any car from Bently,BMW and Roles Royce andalmost any Europeaneconomy and midsizecar. To me what makes a car valuable is its looks craftmenshipand how it makes me feel., I think the Neon is built well and itlooks good and it makes me feel good the imports have been done before its time to fight back with American stuff, the Ricer Culture has really made the streets of America a joke, What happened to the days whenyou could pull up to the stop light and the car next to you was packing aV-8 that does 13 second quartersstock?. Thats another thread but I think each to their own, when I'm beating Civics with my Neon it doesnt matter much what people think.
Death to the Fart Can Muffler!
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
ORIGINAL: Slashwannabe
I've owned a 96Civic before and I can tell you it was no contest betweenmy Neon, Especially when my Girl Friend was driving my Neon and the Neon still won and I consider myself somewhat of a good driver.
The Neon is far superior in stock form. I do not like to compare a built Civic to a stock Neon or visa versaits senseless.
I've owned a 96Civic before and I can tell you it was no contest betweenmy Neon, Especially when my Girl Friend was driving my Neon and the Neon still won and I consider myself somewhat of a good driver.
The Neon is far superior in stock form. I do not like to compare a built Civic to a stock Neon or visa versaits senseless.
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RE: neons vs. civics-dispute
this is really getting pretty dumb....
i love my neons to death, but there is always sumthing better
when i get my new job i plan on buying a 96 impalla ss....i would love to get out of the "tuner" phase.....
hahn racecraft does make some really bad *** cars......they all cruise around the town i live in since they guy that puts all the cars together only lives a few blocks away......hahn stopped tuning neons and now only runs GM's for their show cars.......they have a real nice solstice, cobalt, and an extremely bad *** GTO
i love my neons to death, but there is always sumthing better
when i get my new job i plan on buying a 96 impalla ss....i would love to get out of the "tuner" phase.....hahn racecraft does make some really bad *** cars......they all cruise around the town i live in since they guy that puts all the cars together only lives a few blocks away......hahn stopped tuning neons and now only runs GM's for their show cars.......they have a real nice solstice, cobalt, and an extremely bad *** GTO