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Old May 25, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Default **EDIT** Extra Ground Straps: DO IT

I have seen kits on ebay stating that extra ground straps produce horsepower. That seems far fetched, but having them seems to be a good idea. Does anyone know the solid truth to what extra grounds straps do(if anything), or what they help to prevent.


 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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this must be what your talking about
http://www.modernperformance.com/pro...oducts_id=1193

 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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That is the same concept, but how does this increase power?


*EDIT* 14 gauge is a bit thin IMO. Made some extra straps from 8 gauge wire.
 
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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There are two different types...

theres the type on modern like seen above... that is acually a voltage regulator... it acts sorta like a power cap for your system... but its for your car... it smooths out the voltage... and yes they do give you a smoother idle and what not... as far as hp goes... who knows... some say it will even increase gas milage... due the the battery not draining as much and the pcm being able to have a good voltage supply....

then theres the type I belive your talking about...

This type is the type that theres like 8-10 grounding wires coming off of a negitive battery terminal... that you ground all around your engine bay... and yeah in premise they also work... they make it so your car more pacificly your engine doesent have to search for a gound ...

this system follows the rule of...
Electricity will allways follow the path of least resistance

but you also have to remember that...
Electricity flows Neg. to Pos.

Think of it this way...

How many places is your negitive battery terminal connected to your car??? I think like 4 right... and there dinky connections... everything that needs electricity in your car... including that system that you installed in the trunk needs some place to connect to the battery... and everything is trying to go threw these 4 grounds... So by adding more and spreading them out over both sides of your engine bay and to both sides of your block the electricity doesent need to "search" for a ground as long... and the multiple grounds can brake up the duty of the load better... hence giving you a better idle since the grounds are happy...

I mean you cant tell me that a car that most the time wont start due to one ground being missing wouldent benifit by more grounds...


 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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Electricity flows Neg. to Pos.
thats never been proven. Theres electron flow theory thats says it flowsneg to positive,then theres conventional flow theory thats says it goes pos toneg . Personal i belive conventional is the way it is
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Now this is getting somewhere. This is some important info that all should be paying attention to. Thanks for the good info guys.
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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yeah you have a point 12 volt... there are two therorys out there... however go out to your car for me... and first take off your negitive battery terminal and touch it to the negitive battery terminal, do it a few times.. note the arc. .the size of the arc to be more persise...then put it back on and tighten it back down.. then do the same with the positive terminal and notice the arc...

then come back and tell me witch way electricity flows...

I'm just being respectivly argumentitive here 12 volt... And your right there are two theorys out there... I learned mine from a former NASA electriction when I was in job corp's... so he would probally lean more toward the electron theroy... both theroys can be argued ... another way of looking at it is remember when they made a few cars as a "positive ground" the frame was positive and the ground was fed to the alternator and starter??? dident last long due to voltage drop... thats how you would argue the conventional theroy... (god could you emagine getting in a wreck with one of those cars... lol)

but either way the grounding system still improves idle no matter what theory you use... due to there being a limited number of places the positive needs to go and if you were to add positive leads you would create a voltage drop across the board... Adding ground just lets the electricity flow threw the path of least resistance and reach the battery faster with less resistance...
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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i never understood how the flow could be coming from the ground. i was also tough fleming left hand rule for magnetic fields, the thing with that is you have to know whitch way current flow was. then you get into all the flow theory
 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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ok the easy way to think about it is lighting...

witch way does the lighting bolt go???

it goes ground to sky...

ground to positive...


 
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Old May 26, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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so i gather from this post that there should be about 10 or more line coming off your neg post and connected to most things under the hood????? If im getting a problem where my car is saying that my battery is not connected to my trans then am i missing a neg connection from my bat to the trans????? Also by doing so could I make my lights stop flickering when i turn the car or and when driveing??? (doesnt happen all the time)
 
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