GLX...ur right bout the 3800 pos. Honestly, only Nissan in my opinion makes a decent 6 cylinder. except the old 60's and 70's slant 6.

 

Oh yeah, RB26, and toyotas 2JZ-GTE, got much respect for those motors, just not anything GM. Too many GM's left me walking, where as my fords and dodges have held up under the oddest circumstances.

With my dodge, my next opponents are the Cobalt SS, Lancer, 05 GT's maybe even an SRT4

 

TRUE..i have a 2006 dodge charger hemi and i just had to take it in at 30k miles because the right side head cracked..and 2 valves were effed up..the dodge dealership closes to me has the ****tiest customer service..btw

 

i'll give u the fact that gm put a crappy trans into the gt's and gtp's. but b4 u decide the 3800 is a crap motor, remember that it was the highest produced v6 gm has produced in recent history. it was just recently phased out and replaced with an over priced crap-*** 3.9. dont doubt that motor in the slightes tho, there's a shop out near me that specializes in modding the 3800. i work with one of the guys, his 3800 "crap" is runnin low 12's, and a buddy i went to high school with is hopin to run 11's in his now that the season is openin up. i luv the hell outta my neon, but i got much respect for a v6 that will waste a zo6 with me in the passenger seat...
ps...post up on the kid with the the gt. his is def auto and if he doesn't lauch well he'll spin all day. plus, if he has the "engine control module" on his pcu then his motor will bog down after the car shifts into 2nd.

 

Mine would have to be Corvette Z06, Porche GT3 Cup, Viper, BMW Z4...and actually I will be putting my car up against a bunch of these cars and more at Road Atlanta June 1st. here in Braselton, Ga. Classed by Power to Weight ratio...I'm right up in there with them. Still got a final weigh-in, dyno test, and safety inspection to perform the night b4 track day.

 

a neons stock "150hp" plus the mods, the car would be lucky to actually be running 150hp

i personally think the 3800 is a great motor....

years ago a friend of mine had a 2001 grand am GT with the 3.4 and no matter how hard i tried, i could not beat it with my lightly modded 98 r/t

 

Grand Am's are lighter than boats, and GM's 3.4L is a DOHC variant based on the Cady north star. I wouldn't chance it either. But, I've driven my share of GM's and wrenched on too many to care for em'. Your turbo neon would've left him in the dust.

BTW that guy I raced, his car was a buick regal gs with black and grey two tone, but again, a heavy car almost not worth braggin about.

 

i have a 2001 grand am gt, my neon would never be able to keep up with the grand am. i have 130,000 on my GT and no problems with the engine or transmission. the grand am gets up and goes...it has the 3.4btw

 

The grand am weights a lot less then the grand prix...

Still no race... wft?

~Nate

 

no the 3.4 that spud was talking about is the 60 degree pushrod 180 hp 3.4 v6 that was also the standard motor in the gm minivans from 97-04... the 3.4 dohc was only available in the 92-99 W bodys the monte and lumina and for a few years the grandprix... and that motor was based off the same block as the 3.4 pushrod...(which is the same engine family as the 2.8 and 3.1) the engine your thinking of was the 3.5 DOHC engine that was only availble in the olds intrigue.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_Intrigue....

info on the 3.4 DOHC:
LQ1
The LQ1 (also called the Twin Dual Cam or TDC) was a 3.4 L DOHC V6 motor ("X-code") based on the aluminum headed second generation of GM's 60° engine line, sharing a similar block with its pushrod cousins, the 3.1 L LH0 V6 and the then recently retired 2.8 L LB6 V6. The motor was built only for front wheel drive applications, and was featured exclusively in the first generation of GM's W-body platform.
It was built from 1991 to 1997. From 1991 to 1993, it used tuned multi-port fuel injection, made 200-210 HP (150-160 kW) @ 5200 RPM and 215 ft·lbf (290 Nm) of torque @ 4000 RPM. From 1994 to 1997, it used sequential port fuel injection, making 215 hp (160 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 225 ft·lbf (300 Nm) of torque @ 4000 rpm. It had four large valves per cylinder. The 3.4 L engine used a cogged belt to drive the four overhead camshafts. Adapting a pushrod block for the LQ1's overhead cams was difficult, and the 60° angle made this a very tall engine, but power output was impressive.
Bore was increased to 92 mm, but the 3.1 L engine's 84 mm stroke was retained. There are only a few interchangeable parts between this DOHC engine and other members of the 60° family, namely the connecting rods and crankshaft.
The heads and intake manifolds were redesigned for the 1996 model year, incorporating a larger throttle body and plenum area, slightly shorter intake runners, cloverleaf combustion chambers, and larger "pill"-shaped exhaust ports. Camshafts and cam timing were also revised for the new, higher RPM powerband.
Optional from 1991 to 1993 was a Getrag 284 5-speed manual transaxle, which was also exclusive to the GM W platform and was available only with the LQ1. The electronically controlled Hydramatic 4T60-E 4-speed automatic transaxle was the alternative, used during the entire production run.
Applications:
1991-1994 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 and the Euro 3.4 sedan
1991-1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
1991-1996 Pontiac Grand Prix
1995-1997 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z34
1995-1997 Chevrolet Lumina LS
1997 Chevrolet Lumina LTZ


and the normal 3.4 that spud was talking about:
LA1
The LA1 3400 ("E-code") was a bored-out version of the 3100. It retained the OHV layout of the previous engine, and was first utilized on the 1996 U platform minivans and appeared in a car for the first time in the 1999 Pontiac Grand Am and Oldsmobile Alero. A 92 mm (3.6 in) bore with the same 84 mm (3.3 in) stroke brought the displacement to 3.4 L (3,350 cc/207 cu in). Like the LG8, the LA1 featured numerous common parts with the similar GM High Value engine family. Power was up to 170 hp-185 hp (127 kW to 138 kW) and torque was 210 ft·lbf (280 N·m). The 3.4 L engine is known to have intake manifold gasket problems causing engine damage if the owner of the car neglects to check or change the gaskets (if necessary). Many aftermarket companies have released gaskets that correct this problem for good. It is used in the following:
1996 Chevrolet Lumina APV/Pontiac Trans Sport/Oldsmobile Silhouette
1997-2004 Chevrolet Venture/Pontiac Montana/Pontiac Trans Sport/Oldsmobile Silhouette
1999-2004 Oldsmobile Alero GL/GLS
1999-2005 Pontiac Grand Am SE/GT
2001-2005 Pontiac Aztek/Buick Rendezvous
2000-2005 Chevrolet Impala
2000-2005 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

for somebody who has driven a lot of gms and worked on them you don't seem to know much.....