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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 93 ragtop
Rock auto has the carrier here http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/d...+carrier,13098 $322.79 Not sure how that translates to Canadian dollars.

You could buy the truck, personally I would want new mounts, vs cutting the old off and rewelding to the axle, both spring, and shocks. Going to have to set the pinion angle, etc. Then are all the little things going to work out? ie brake cables, driveshaft, brake lines, etc. Also, is the gear ratio the same? a lot of times, the devil is in the details of these swaps.

If the rest of your 8.25 is in good shape, its probably going to be cheaper and easier in the long run to put a limited slip carrier in what you have.
Unless you plan to really dog the truck or switch to a much more powerful engine, the 8.25 is a pretty good rear.

One other point, the used one may be worn out. The limited slip carrier are a wear item.
it definitely isnt going to be cheaper buying the "posi" unit. I really fail to see your logic 9/10 times. And wonder where you get your malorcy.
 
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it definitely isnt going to be cheaper buying the "posi" unit. I really fail to see your logic 9/10 times. And wonder where you get your malorcy.
How much are new mounts, getting the cut and welded, and the various other modifications going to cost? Bet more than 200 bucks......
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby Warford
it definitely isnt going to be cheaper buying the "posi" unit. I really fail to see your logic 9/10 times. And wonder where you get your malorcy.



I see jerk toby is back again LOL BTW mr brains, what is malorcy? ROFL

Its ok you dont understand, (with you I expect that) I was talking to the OP

BTW you promised this, I knew it was too good to be true!! https://dodgeforum.com/forum/off-top...ck-me-out.html
 
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theres really nothing he could swap in and keep the same bolt pattern being 6 lug.



Do you understand that the carrier has nothing to do with wheel bolt pattern?

FWIW
this one web site shows 4 different aftermarket carriers for the 8.25 https://www.drivetrainshop.com/Chrysler_8_25_s/81.htm
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 93 ragtop


Do you understand that the carrier has nothing to do with wheel bolt pattern?

FWIW
this one web site shows 4 different aftermarket carriers for the 8.25 https://www.drivetrainshop.com/Chrysler_8_25_s/81.htm
its still going to be the same design, with the same weak points.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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How much are new mounts, getting the cut and welded, and the various other modifications going to cost? Bet more than 200 bucks......
he doesnt need new mounts. For you to suggest that is rediculous. And guess what idiot. Theres a whole truck he could begetting that he can part out our scrap. We dont even know if he has the know how to swap the carrier in himself. The cutting and welding should be able to be done very cheap.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 93 ragtop


I see jerk toby is back again LOL BTW mr brains, what is malorcy? ROFL

Its ok you dont understand, (with you I expect that) I was talking to the OP

BTW you promised this, I knew it was too good to be true!! https://dodgeforum.com/forum/off-top...ck-me-out.html
Ya, hard to stay true when people dont use logic when they give advice and have someone spend money that isn't needed. Have you done an axle swap to something that didn't have that axle originally? No? I have. Quite simple. Regardless of what it came out of.

If you people really think its better to spend more on a new carrier vs buying a whole parts truck, your heads are full of peanuts.

Oh, and malarcy is a saying for bull****, retard, idiot etc. Figured someone as old as you would get that. But when you head is full of peanuts I'm expecting too much.
 

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he doesnt need new mounts. For you to suggest that is rediculous. And guess what idiot. Theres a whole truck he could begetting that he can part out our scrap. We dont even know if he has the know how to swap the carrier in himself. The cutting and welding should be able to be done very cheap.
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Ya, hard to stay true when people dont use logic when they give advice and have someone spend money that isn't needed. Have you done an axle swap to something that didn't have that axle originally? No? I have. Quite simple. Regardless of what it came out of.

If you people really think its better to spend more on a new carrier vs buying a whole parts truck, your heads are full of peanuts.
Please read the title by my username. Tossing insults and such at staff here, or anyone else for that matter, really isn't a good plan. I could always just grant the wish you expressed in your other thread, and be done with you, but, you do occasionally have something pertinent to add, so, I cut you a little slack. Not anymore. Next time I see you acting out of line, you will be history. No warnings, no second chances, just Gone.

I have been turning wrenches for more than 40 years, and yes, I have done more than a couple axle swaps. Not on a dakota though, so, I am going by information PROVIDED BY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. I would think he actually has a clue about his own truck.
 
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Please read the title by my username. Tossing insults and such at staff here, or anyone else for that matter, really isn't a good plan. I could always just grant the wish you expressed in your other thread, and be done with you, but, you do occasionally have something pertinent to add, so, I cut you a little slack. Not anymore. Next time I see you acting out of line, you will be history. No warnings, no second chances, just Gone.

I have been turning wrenches for more than 40 years, and yes, I have done more than a couple axle swaps. Not on a dakota though, so, I am going by information PROVIDED BY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. I would think he actually has a clue about his own truck.
having a clue about his own truck and being able to swap carriers isnt the same thing. Which unless I missed it, he never said if he could swap the carrier himself, or if someone else would have to do it. Which is a decent charge.

Either way, swapping the whole axle and having an entire parts truck is money way ahead vs just buying a carrier. Why not get the most bang for your buck?
 
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Originally Posted by Toby Warford
having a clue about his own truck and being able to swap carriers isnt the same thing. Which unless I missed it, he never said if he could swap the carrier himself, or if someone else would have to do it. Which is a decent charge.

Either way, swapping the whole axle and having an entire parts truck is money way ahead vs just buying a carrier. Why not get the most bang for your buck?
True, we don't know his capabilities. Thing is, which is going to be more cost effective? Will the axle be a direct swap? He doesn't seem to think so. I am not even sure the axles are the same ratio. (which could be a real issue, if his truck is a 4x4.) If the axle ISN'T a direct swap, then he is either going to be paying labor either way, or, will be in for a significant learning experience, no matter which route he chooses.
 
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