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Old May 26, 2018 | 05:29 PM
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can the abs give a soft brake pedal and I have no warning lights on
 
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Old May 26, 2018 | 08:26 PM
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A soft pedal is usually air in the system or a leak.

Rule out the basic brake system first. How's the fluid level? Any signs of leaks at ANY of the calipers/wheel cylinders?

Did you do any brake work recently?
 
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Old May 26, 2018 | 08:59 PM
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new pads and new rotors, new shoes, wheel cylinders and drums and master cylinder and flushed out old fluid with a pressure bleeder. I did all of this because the brakes were soft and I can not stop in 150 feet at 25 MPH, even in panic it just slows down to a slow stop. No ABS action and no lights. I did take it to the local parts store and they read all the codes and nothing. I am at a loss. and the ABS fuse is OK . No leaks anywhere and low pressure at the rear wheels.
 
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Old May 26, 2018 | 09:47 PM
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did you change the front and rear flex hoses?
 
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"Low pressure at the rear wheels." There is a proportioning valve in the system. Drum brakes are self energizing and use a lower pressure than a disk brake.

There could be air in the system even with pressure bleeding. You may need to cycle the ABS system while bleeding it. A DRB is required.

It could also be the flexible lines, all 3 of them.
 
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Old May 27, 2018 | 08:38 AM
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Did you adjust the rear brakes? How is your pedal travel? Do you have to push it pretty far to get it to actually start doing something?
 
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Old May 27, 2018 | 04:11 PM
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The only thing that has not been changed out are the flex lines and combination valve, even after adjusting the rear brakes pedal travel is close to the floor, I have even set the E brake and checked the travel and still goes about the same distance. I just bought this truck for a fishing truck and found the brakes to be acting this way and this is why I have done all of this work. I am about ready to by pass the ABS all together, because all I am seeing is bad problems with it for other Dakota owners.
 
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The ABS system is not the problem. You have a BASE brake system problem - the hydraulics.

That's also why there is no ABS warning light.

The ABS kicks in to prevent a wheel from locking up. It sounds as if your braking is so poor that that is not happening.

Check those lines and bleed the entire system - using a DRB to cycle the ABS.
 
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