what about thermoplastic bushings ?
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what about thermoplastic bushings ?
So i got my Moog, fairly hard Blue sway bar bushings, in the mail the other day. After a couple days of wire brushing and some penetrating oil i replaced some sorry looking, skinny sway bar links. So glad the Moog came with new bolt/nut.
The rear left shock is in the way for access to the top bolt but can be had with 15 + 19mm deep well socket and wrench. Right side top , i got a little room after
un-hanging the tail pipe and going to my 3/8 drive after doing most work with 1/2" drive socket. At the same time i also sprayed and backed out the bolts holding the sway bar bushings to the axel mounts, (right other side of shock). All these bolts are getting cranked out after about 18years, most spent in the mid-west (salt). The new thermoplastic material is stout stuff, i really don't see the bushings which are split to open enough to go right on. I guess i could undo the links and slide them on with probably some lube, but from my searching there is no lube for these hard bushings. Are the bushings supposed to spread/open onto the bar ?
I wonder about maybe some hot water to aid in the opening ?
Someone with first hand help me/us !
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The rear left shock is in the way for access to the top bolt but can be had with 15 + 19mm deep well socket and wrench. Right side top , i got a little room after
un-hanging the tail pipe and going to my 3/8 drive after doing most work with 1/2" drive socket. At the same time i also sprayed and backed out the bolts holding the sway bar bushings to the axel mounts, (right other side of shock). All these bolts are getting cranked out after about 18years, most spent in the mid-west (salt). The new thermoplastic material is stout stuff, i really don't see the bushings which are split to open enough to go right on. I guess i could undo the links and slide them on with probably some lube, but from my searching there is no lube for these hard bushings. Are the bushings supposed to spread/open onto the bar ?
I wonder about maybe some hot water to aid in the opening ?
Someone with first hand help me/us !
P1010001_zps57a99ffb.jpg
Last edited by LIZZRD; 07-15-2014 at 07:49 PM.
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#4
Those are aftermarket bushings for an optional (rear) or original (front) sway bar.
Me? I ordered first the Raybestos "OEM fit" for my 1988, but they were for a smaller swaybar, so I then measured the bar and ordered some poly ones from Energy Suspension that are greaseable (to help keep the "OOkookOOKook" down)
They actually spread EASIER than the rubber ones did, go figure.
Still, they're not exactly "Jump on up in here!" easy.
Good news is, with my bar out, I can slip them on a lot easier.
RwP
Me? I ordered first the Raybestos "OEM fit" for my 1988, but they were for a smaller swaybar, so I then measured the bar and ordered some poly ones from Energy Suspension that are greaseable (to help keep the "OOkookOOKook" down)
They actually spread EASIER than the rubber ones did, go figure.
Still, they're not exactly "Jump on up in here!" easy.
Good news is, with my bar out, I can slip them on a lot easier.
RwP
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"OOkookOOKook"
I would like the poly bushings if they were actually formed in the metal bushing sleeve like OEM rubber ones. That’s the reason poly bushings make that ugly noise they move in the bushing sleeve OEM rubber ones are molded into the metal sleeve so no movement or sliding in the sleeve. Now steering stabilizers are not molded but the OEM rubber doesn’t make any noise were as poly will make that strange noise.
OOkookOOKook
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That's funny
I would like the poly bushings if they were actually formed in the metal bushing sleeve like OEM rubber ones. That’s the reason poly bushings make that ugly noise they move in the bushing sleeve OEM rubber ones are molded into the metal sleeve so no movement or sliding in the sleeve. Now steering stabilizers are not molded but the OEM rubber doesn’t make any noise were as poly will make that strange noise.
OOkookOOKook
I would like the poly bushings if they were actually formed in the metal bushing sleeve like OEM rubber ones. That’s the reason poly bushings make that ugly noise they move in the bushing sleeve OEM rubber ones are molded into the metal sleeve so no movement or sliding in the sleeve. Now steering stabilizers are not molded but the OEM rubber doesn’t make any noise were as poly will make that strange noise.
OOkookOOKook
That reminds me - the poly ones on the Cougar need a shot of lube again.
AND - the Dakota is going to hit the ground again tonight, alignment tomorrow morning (or so's the plans anyway.)
The sway bar bushings aren't molded into the sway bar brackets from the factory either - the rubber just gives a bit more.
As to the bushings - the rubber is quieter because typically the rubber yields, whereas the center shaft rubs on the poly bushing (which doesn't yield). If they bound it tight, the bushing might as well be aluminum solid for all the give it'd have.
RwP