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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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No, nor do I think it's cost effective. You don't have a lot of mods now. Just cut your losses and save up to switch your engine or add a turbo.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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so is it ok to just turbo it now?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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If you're going to turbo your car with your current motor, getting the supporting mods isn't a bad idea. But know what you're getting yourself into. Now to turbo the SOHC 2.0L engine you're either going to:

-Hanh turbo kit - of which EVERYTHING will be provided from FMIC piping to BOV's....designed specifically for your engine.

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-SRT turbo - Need to get the adapter plate, make your own IC piping, beef up internals and a lot of other very, very difficult processes. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I feel that a lot of people are WAY too optomistic and easy going about this amount of work it takes. I take it's your daily driver? Consider that in...otherwise look at the Forced Induction section of 2gn.org and you'll see what you're getting yourself into.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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ok, but I'm still doing the cam, TB and RT intake. because there's going to be more air coming in and the stock intake mani probably wont take the extra heat that the engine will be making (heard the stock one has a tendency to crack)

plus the cam will help make more HP quicker

I will be doing a Tranny swap in the future
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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If you're going to turbo your car with your current motor, getting the supporting mods isn't a bad idea. But know what you're getting yourself into. Now to turbo the SOHC 2.0L engine you're either going to:

-Hanh turbo kit - of which EVERYTHING will be provided from FMIC piping to BOV's....designed specifically for your engine.

OR

-SRT turbo - Need to get the adapter plate, make your own IC piping, beef up internals and a lot of other very, very difficult processes. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I feel that a lot of people are WAY too optomistic and easy going about this amount of work it takes. I take it's your daily driver? Consider that in...otherwise look at the Forced Induction section of 2gn.org and you'll see what you're getting yourself into.
Not trying to be a dick, but i'm curious about your post. Why would you reference beefing up the internals for the SRT set-up and not the Hahn, or vise versa…

Now if you know what you are doing… The SRT-4 set-up is way more cost efficient than the Hahn. I pieced my whole set-up for under $3000 and that included the magnum head, cam, clutch, Walbro 255 and gauges. All of which are not included in the Hahn kit.

Used SRT-4 manifolds and turbo’s are cheap as hell. Along with stock SRT IC piping.

Not knocking the hahn kit, it comes with everything… fittings lines and such. But for a price.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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The stock plastic manifold has been pressure tested to 100psi and passed. I kept it and was fine with it. Had an R/T manifold but figured i would save on weight by keeping the stock one.

although your are right, less restriction = less heat.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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plus the 60mm TB and RT intake manifold will allow more air in. and I will do a magnum head and comp 200 cam then I might go after the SRT4 turbo route with a MS kit to manage it. and eventually a MTX swap
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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keep in mind nobody had a list or have i been able to find a list of all the fittings and lines. I had another neon to drive daily and had full access to my uncle's shop. Be prepared for multiple drives back and forth to the hardware store and a few days if not a week of down time.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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If you're going to turbo your car with your current motor, getting the supporting mods isn't a bad idea. But know what you're getting yourself into. Now to turbo the SOHC 2.0L engine you're either going to:

-Hanh turbo kit - of which EVERYTHING will be provided from FMIC piping to BOV's....designed specifically for your engine.

OR

-SRT turbo - Need to get the adapter plate, make your own IC piping, beef up internals and a lot of other very, very difficult processes. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I feel that a lot of people are WAY too optomistic and easy going about this amount of work it takes. I take it's your daily driver? Consider that in...otherwise look at the Forced Induction section of 2gn.org and you'll see what you're getting yourself into.
Not trying to be a dick, but i'm curious about your post. Why would you reference beefing up the internals for the SRT set-up and not the Hahn, or vise versa…

Now if you know what you are doing… The SRT-4 set-up is way more cost efficient than the Hahn. I pieced my whole set-up for under $3000 and that included the magnum head, cam, clutch, Walbro 255 and gauges. All of which are not included in the Hahn kit.

Used SRT-4 manifolds and turbo’s are cheap as hell. Along with stock SRT IC piping.

Not knocking the hahn kit, it comes with everything… fittings lines and such. But for a price.
I'm not saying the hanh is better...but I think if the OP has to even pose this question, it gives you a lot of insight on his knowledge. I don't think even with proper guidance he'd get the same setup as you cost effectively. I didn't know you could use the SRT ic piping, I thought it had to be custom made?

The hanh is supposed to run less boost as well...like 5 or 8 I believe. Which is supposed to be "safe", yet i still hear on engines blowing with 5psi. So I guess there really is no "safe" psi.

I think what I was trying to say was

Hanh - Turbo for idiots?

Pretty easy, thanks to Hahn's deep experience with turbosystems. All of the components are bolt-on, with no welding or fabrication required. Detailed instructions guide the installer, step by step, through the entire installation. You need not be a turbo specialist or skilled tuner to install and set up this system. Any qualified auto mechanic can do it with standard tools. The installation approach and instructions are conceived with the installer in mind. Should any questions arise, the installer can access our highly skilled Tech Service department for assistance. Expect to spend 10 to 15 hours to complete the installation. Expect that EVERYTHING you need will be in the system box. When we say that all you need is this system, your car and a mechanic, we are sincere. It's all in the box, with no additional trips to the parts store required! We've done all the hard work already, including engineering a fuel enrichment system which is complete and proven. - From their site

SRT-4 - Know what you're doing?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Also with srt4 turbo know what your getting theres alot of beaters out there . I found myself a srt donor ride for 2 grand but everyones doing it so I passed it up and going with a hahn found one locally a stage 2 kit for an auto for 1,500 grand and his lose is my gain he said . I actually dont trust donor srt4s anyways most are beaten to crap.
 
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