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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Hey im a bit new to your foums here and wanted to start off saying hi. Anyways with rising gas prices, and my new 03" Dodge Neon SXT, i need as much MPG as i can get. I have a few things on my list of Need-to-get but could prolly use some help. I'm not really car savvy but i know my **** and putting things together is quite easy for me most of the time. So heres a list of a few items that i wanna get, if you know a good company to go with or something other to crank up MPG lemme know please! any help is appriciated...
So heres some things I am currently looking into...
1. Cool Air Intake (theres like 30 ive seen on the market.. a lot of different shapes any SXT users got one i should use over another?)
2. Performance Exhaust system (a lot on the market too, whats best and affordable without being a ****load of money?)
3. Saw on another forum some sort of performance oil that wasnt like regular **** moves faster.. quicker blah blah blahi donno any ideas?
4. Body kit.. Thats gotta help MPG somewhat right?
5. I have only seen manual chips for the sxt and i dont wanna **** anything up.. is there a chip with all the information on it or is it all manual?

Thats really all i can think of.. so any company or other parts that I SHOULD be looking into would greatly help. Just trying to save as much money on gas as i can

 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Ugh well....

Get a K&N air intake, maybe pricey but who cares. If not and ebay intake with K&N filter, Ive had a ebay intake and filter for over a year and no problemo.
Get a srt rear section and a 27inch glasspack, 2.25 intel/outlet. Get that glasspack welded into your midpipe.
The oil is probly Purple w/e I dunno, I dont give a butt about oil.
And body kits are not only beat but, will only huty mpgs not gain.
Goto the the store get some of the stuff you put in your oil, some fuel system cleaner. That will help a little, I normally have 1 quart of the oil replacement **** put in and I normally do half a bottle of fuel system cleaner when I do it.
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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K&N or AEM are good CAI's.....

The SRT Rear section is good stuff... I personally dont have any resonators or a glasspack on mine, i love the sound but legallity is an issue....

The Oil you are thinkin of is DEFINATELY Royal Purple OEM Synthetic........ DO NOT BUY THE RACE FORMULA! you will have to change the oil after like 1000 miles or something ridiculous if you do... and its like $80-$100 for a bottle instead of $20-$40.... so yea make sure its NOT the racing stuff...

Body kits... bro are you serious.... this isn't a effin' honda...... body kits are wasted money unless you wanna look nice and go REALLLLLLLLLY slow over speed bumps and such.....

And a Chip will only HURT your Gas Milage.... listen to me carfully THERE ARE NOOOOOOOO CHIPS, PROGRAMMERS, ETC. THAT WILL HELP A NEON!!!!! the only thing you can do with the computer is fool it into thinking something else with an A/F controller, a piggyback ECU setup (not recommended), or a full Standalone ECU (NOT CHEAP!!)..... so forget any kinda ship or modification it wont work and it wont help... it might just break somethin... okie!? good happy modding!!!!
 
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Pretty much everything you mentioned with hurt your mpg

You're adding more air which will cause the car to add more fuel on a PCM not designed to do such a thing...
 
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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lol jesus.. so change the filters. intake.. maybe do some oil.. something about exhaust. anything else?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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In my op ebay intake with k&n filter, magnaflow dual exhaust nice setup for decent price, mopar lip kit for your bodykit and msd for your wires and ngk for your sparkplugs that should help you out some for your mpg and to make your sxt look a little better with the lip kit and magnaflow dual.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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Pretty much everything you mentioned with hurt your mpg

You're adding more air which will cause the car to add more fuel on a PCM not designed to do such a thing...
Not necessarily... this is a tricky subject to argue, but if I explain this right, both of our comments will make sense.

Just adding a K&N will not hurt your MPG. I've personally used K&N in6 different vehicles, and had good luck with every one.Never heard of it dropping MPG by switching from paper to cloth.

Now, Adionik your comment is true, but usually only under situations where forced induction comes into play. For NA (naturally aspirated) engines, many times a little bit more air actually = a little bit less fuel. Sounds screwy, I know. But the rule of thumb is, if you have a properly tuned engine and can unrestrict airflow moving into it, you will fit more air into the combustion chamber. Combining this with the fuel mixture will lead to a more efficient burn of the fuel due to the slightly higher real air pressure in the engine when the piston is at TDC and the plug hasjust sparked. This added efficiency generally will cause you to press the accelerator a little less to get the same amount of "power" as before... because the same amount of air is traveling into your engine with less throttle body opening needed.Thus you will actually use less gas, theoretically anyway. Granted, swapping a K&N in there compared to a new paper filter will probably only yield 1 mpg or so, but with gas prices nowadays it might as well be worth it IMO. In engines where airflow is restricted, the ECU will try to compensate by injecting more fuel than usual to get the same power result, simply because the driver has to open the throttle-body more to get up and going, etc.

As far as plugs and wires, Champions do just fine, Neons seem to love them. NGK's are at least just as good of a plug. Stay away from platinums unless you like spending more money to change them (DIS ignition systems wear them out quicker than they claim to last, also platinum does not have nearly the conductivity of electricity that copper does).

As far as exhaust, there is a recent thread in the 2nd-Gen forum discussing the same thing right now. The conversation is leaning towards glass-packs if you're on a budget and want cheap performance.

Make sure your tire pressure is up, 30-35 psi is decent, especially if you do a lot of driving on the highway. Higher tire pressure (but not too high) = less rolling resistance and can really help your gas mileage considerably.

Oh and as far as oil, there is also a good oil thread in this forum too as of today. Full Synthetics like Mobil1, Pennzoil Platinum, Quaker-State "Q", and Royal Purple are all decent choices by the general community. 5W-30 is a good place to start for your engine. I personally prefer 0W-30 Mobil1, but that's only my personal preferrence. All of the oils I mentioned will provide good protection and the least amount of friction vs. protection and performance, and also will net you 1 mpg or so over conventional oils of the same rated 5W-30 ratings. Just don't use any higher winter-weight of 5W-30 (in other words, don't use 10W- weights, the 2.0 generally doesn't like them). Also, only use them if your car does not have a s***load of miles on it and has never seen synthetic oil... If you run a motor for 100,000 miles on conventional oil, and then one day decide to switch to full synthetic, there is a good chance that it will start leaking oil on you... that being said, stick with conventional if that's the case. If that's not the case, then synthetic all the way.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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NO NO NO I'M RIGHT AND THAT'S IT



 
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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NO NO NO I'M RIGHT AND THAT'S IT



Ha ha ha, sounds familiar lol.

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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You could buy a LOT of gas for the price of the items you are talking about.
 
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