The Official 2nd Gen RAM Forum OT thread
Alright guys, saw a video someone posted online about a DUI checkpoint on July 4th. Dude pulls up to the officer, has his window down about 2-3", officer asks him to roll it all the way down, kid (21) refuses and starts citing his constitutional rights, welp after enough officers surround his car he finally pulls over, gets out of the car and is questioned by police, they bring a K9 into sniff for illegal drugs, they claim the dog was onto something so they searched the car, found nothing but the guys video camera, which was recording the entire incident, they turned it towards the seat cushion once they found it. They found no drugs or anything and he was eventually let go.
So my question, if you come up to the DUI checkpoint or any police checkpoint, do you simply comply, roll the window ALL the way down, show some I.D. and be on your way?
Or do you bitch about the constitution and get searched?
My personally, I think it's much easier just to comply and not make such a big fuss over nothing.
So my question, if you come up to the DUI checkpoint or any police checkpoint, do you simply comply, roll the window ALL the way down, show some I.D. and be on your way?
Or do you bitch about the constitution and get searched?
My personally, I think it's much easier just to comply and not make such a big fuss over nothing.
Champion
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Back when I lived out in Mb (in my younger years) -35c we would suit up get on the sleds (snowmobiles) and go ditch pounding to the small town bars. As a younger person I liked the cold. I think the winters back then where colder/longer and had more snow than what we have been getting over the last few years.
Champion
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Do a search on you tube for "checkpoint refusal", tons of videos on it. From what I understand, at any checkpoint, you are not legally reauired to say anything (5th amendment) and they cannot legally search with out cause (4th amendment). BUT, as shown in that particular video, the dogs are trained to act on command. So if they don't naturally "hit" on something, the trainer/owner/cop can command the dog to perform the "act" which indicates it has "hit" something, therefore giving them probable cause to remove you and search. These "checkpoints" are a clear violation of the 4th amendment. How you handle these situations all depends on how willing you are to stand up for your constitutional rights. I'm just glad they don't have any immigration checkpoints around here. Youre best defense is to keep asking "Am I being detained?" and "Am I free to go?" Police or anyone cannot detain you without probable cause.
Administrator
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From: Clayton MI
Cops are more likely to stand around and shoot the **** with me, rather than hassle me about anything. (aside from driving a beast that gets crappy gas mileage....) I know most of them personally, as they were all friends of my brother.
Yep don't have to say a WORD. But if you don't want trouble and don't mind too much that they break your rights, just be nice to them and they'll just wave you by. If you're a hot Texan who defends your rights with a gun, then simply state the facts and be prepared for trouble. Personally the cops around here simply know better than to mess with me so they leave me alone...
Captain
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From: Bluegrass State
My last accident, cop asks was I wearing a belt...........I said yeah, fat lot a good it does, every time I eat Mexican I gain 5 pounds (no ticket), wasn't wearing a seat belt, but gave it a slight spin.
For you guys in Canada, I used to work outside of Chicago and thought it was cold, your winter temps make me appreciative when it's 30*F. It's blue food coloring in the dogs outside water bowls tonight, I'll send the wife out first. K.
For you guys in Canada, I used to work outside of Chicago and thought it was cold, your winter temps make me appreciative when it's 30*F. It's blue food coloring in the dogs outside water bowls tonight, I'll send the wife out first. K.
