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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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How is that neutral at all? All the big time companies will just pay ISPs off so you're forced to use a certain browser/only browse certain pages.....etc


That's fn stupid
Exactly. And that's why the big companies want to get rid of net neutrality. They can spend a little money, to control your surfing habits.

I agree with you. Getting rid of the law REQUIRING IT, is a step backwards. But then, those with the money, get to make the rules.
 
Old Jan 27, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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They dug me out of the cabbage patch in February '61.
We're close (relatively speaking)... I was quarried in '63.

And as for the young'ns with straight pipes, have at it... just not in my neighborhood after 10pm.
 
Old Jan 27, 2014 | 11:29 PM
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Straight piped, and I'm the same year as my truck.
 
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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I picked up an issue of diesel power because they were doing a comparison of the new 1\2 ton diesel ram and the Cummins. The used a 4wd crew cab for both trucks. The Eco had 3.55 gears, Cummins with 3.42. The ecodiesel got 28.5 mpg at 75mph, the Cummins got just under 20. They also did a towing test, with a 7k lb trailer and the Eco got 19.5 mpg while towing. Personally, I thought that was pretty impressive. What I didn't find impressive was the fact that 7k pounds is actually over the tow capacity for the truck, it was only rated for 6700.

Dyno numbers at the wheel: 325 ftlb @ about 3150rpm, 202hp @ about 3500. Cummins: 657@ 2350, 319hp @ 2700. Testing was done at sea level with 15% load applied.
 

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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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Mine's pretty loud but straighpipeless.
 
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Mine sounds pretty bad right now with two massive exhaust leaks where the pipes bend above the axle
 
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AppelH
I picked up an issue of diesel power because they were doing a comparison of the new 1\2 ton diesel ram and the Cummins. The used a 4wd crew cab for both trucks. The Eco had 3.55 gears, Cummins with 3.42. The ecodiesel got 28.5 mpg at 75mph, the Cummins got just under 20. They also did a towing test, with a 7k lb trailer and the Eco got 19.5 mpg while towing. Personally, I thought that was pretty impressive. What I didn't find impressive was the fact that 7k pounds is actually over the tow capacity for the truck, it was only rated for 6700.

Dyno numbers at the wheel: 325 ftlb @ about 3150rpm, 202hp @ about 3500. Cummins: 657@ 2350, 319hp @ 2700. Testing was done at sea level with 15% load applied.
nice mileage on the eco.

probably make 35mpg in my S10 with that motor!
 
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Truck looks stupid with the spare on:

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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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got the sidewall huh? time for new tires!
 
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigabop
nice mileage on the eco.

probably make 35mpg in my S10 with that motor!
I would love to put one on my Rango too

I am curious what the hemi in the same configuration gets. Everyone was knocking the eco because it wasn't going to be worth the extra cost. I consider a Hemi getting 20 on the highway good, and even so the Eco would put it to shame mileage wise.
 



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