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Old 05-30-2013, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by beginningjockey
http://books.google.com/books?id=zst...page&q&f=false

Read that page it automatically goes to. If you notice they used two different types of PCMs in 1998, 1998.5 being the changing point for both the 24valve diesel and the Magnum PCMs. That's why many tuners don't support pre 1998 Magnums as they use a different computer. That's also why there is no performance Mopar PCM for the Magnum V8s after 1997 (until the Hemi replaced the Magnum).
Yeah, they moved to JTEC in 98. But pre 98's still have a more retarded tune in them. That's my point. lol
Granted, 96's didn't have Torque management...
 
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
Yeah, they moved to JTEC in 98. But pre 98's still have a more retarded tune in them. That's my point. lol
Granted, 96's didn't have Torque management...
No stupid lol... They introduced JTEC in 1996.5 (models with one upstream O2 were a OBD1 PCM with a OBD2 interface, those weren't all JTEC, although I have been able to verify that 5.9L single upstream O2s used a JTEC PCM, like mine does), not 1998. But I will agree that they have a more retarded tune in the pre 1998 models.

One thing these 2nd gen PCMs didn't have that Ford had back in the late 80s was a highway mode. Even our big Ford has it, although it won't work until we get our ECU fixed...

Edit: No offense meant dodge_dude. I was j/k... It was just kinda funny cuz the book said JTEC came in 1996 (unless you didn't read that page) and I've verified JTEC came in most 1996 models.
 

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Old 05-30-2013, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by beginningjockey
No stupid lol... They introduced JTEC in 1996.5 (models with one upstream O2 were a OBD1 PCM with a OBD2 interface, those weren't all JTEC, although I have been able to verify that 5.9L single upstream O2s used a JTEC PCM, like mine does), not 1998. But I will agree that they have a more retarded tune in the pre 1998 models.

One thing these 2nd gen PCMs didn't have that Ford had back in the late 80s was a highway mode. Even our big Ford has it, although it won't work until we get our ECU fixed...

Edit: No offense meant dodge_dude. I was j/k... It was just kinda funny cuz the book said JTEC came in 1996 (unless you didn't read that page) and I've verified JTEC came in most 1996 models.
Well, I learned something new, since I coulda sworn that JTEC was used in 98 and that was why the 98 and up were better tunable than the pre-98.
 
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So the Arizona Mom was released from Mexican Jail!
 
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I wonder who would win in a race between dytlers turbo dart and my turbo cruze. They both have 1.4 turbo motors and 6 spd, though mine is a auto.
 
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Likely his because he's already modding it.
 
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Anybody else notice the forum links go back to the way they were before?
 
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
Anybody else notice the forum links go back to the way they were before?
No?
 
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Originally Posted by stewie01
No?
I worded it incorrectly:
Did anyone notice how the forum links are back to the way they were before they added the separate sections.
 
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Oh!

Yup, actually I like that look better.
 


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