"Outside fringes", love it! Not participating in the welfare state and preparing for the inevitable financial meltdown that's coming is "outside fringe". I like that. Maybe I'll name my small ranch "Outside Fringe".

 

listen close to this bit, if you like that last one:

reasonable people are doing what you are suggesting.. it's not the LUNATIC fringe, it's the 'outer fringe'...

save me a spot out there, dude.. well.. four spots..

MANY people I know- who are reasonable people- are contemplating, or making effort to do what you suggest.. reasonable people.. not lunatics.. there is a HUGE difference, though those who disagree with them will make every attempt to make them seem deranged..

 

Who is he going to blame if/when the economy tanks in January and unemployment returns above 8%? As it stands, he's inheriting the worst economy since the Great Depression.

 

It's kind of amazing how much hatred there is for Obama (justified or not). If the Republican Party ran a better campaign or perhaps choose a BETTER candidate then Mitt Romney (several to choose from), ya'll may have won this election.

Romney changed his position on his political views over and over again, there is countless video evidence to this fact. No one knew which Romney would be in the White House if he actually won, and that scared away voters.

His ProLife Stance (just one of the things he constantly flip flopped on) cost him precious female votes, female votes that in part won Obama the election.

This seemed to be a really close race, but ended up not to be the case. Last I saw on the boob tube officials were still tallying votes in Miami-Dade County, a heavily Democratic County, so the 29 Electoral Votes of Florida haven't even gone the Presidents way yet.

Don't be mad because Obama won, be mad because the Republican Party couldn't present a solid candidate to win, or be mad that the U.S. flip flopped their position and voted Obama instead.

Just some dumb hicks opinion.

 

The Executive Order is worded in a way that Obama DOESN'T have to have a REAL reason in order to implement. There could be a very simple, orderly demonstration outside the White House and he could realistically call it a 'threat to national security'. In no way shape or form do I even remotely trust the little SNAKE!!!

 

and you're just as right as anyone...

it's not romney love- it's obama hate.. i've personally never voted FOR a candidate .. always AGAINST..

 

lets put this into prospective. Mitt Romney has a history of pissing on the employees below him and firing them in the thousands just so he can get ahead and make a couple extra bucks...you want this guy to run the country?! You really think he gives a **** about americans and their jobs when he himself has been the direct cause of thousands of americans losing their jobs? Do a little homework on your savior before you say we are all screwed.

Now don't take that the wrong way, I don't think Obama knows a damn thing about how to fix the economy and the SOB has continued to spend money like a drunken sailor in the footsteps of Bush. They are both F'in crooks and I don't like either one of them. I would rather have a libertarian in office, but we all know that will NEVER happen. So it always just seems to be a vote between the lesser of two evils as neither one is a good choice.

to be fair Obama took office when the ship was already sinking with holes too big to plug...there is nothing he or any other politician could have done to stop the economy of plunging. I don't think he took the correct course of action in throwing all of that money down the pit with the economy like bush was doing, but as I said before, he knows nothing about how to fix the economy. Romney knows nothing about it either. Its too big and wide spread of a problem that is effecting the globe. Its not just us being effected. The economy grew too big too fast and the bubble has to break some time.

One of the root causes of this bad economy is the idiots buying houses they can't afford and trying to "flip" them, then reality sets in and they can't pay their bills anymore because they bought too much **** they couldn't afford and default on everything. Things would not have gotten this bad if most of the dead beats out there would live beneath their means, pay their debts, and stop buying things attempting this get rich quick scheme. ponzi schemes have something to do with it too, as well as our war for oil we don't need, etc.

We didn't need to go to iraq for oil. embargo that f'in country and use our own reserves. we have more oil in the US and canada than the entire world combined has. there NEVER has been and NEVER will be an oil shortage.

You want to know what caused the oil shortage in the 70's? Oil companies and the politicians who made money from it lied to the public making up BS stories that there was an oil shortage when in reality they caused the gas shortage by literally sending 90% of their tanker trucks out to ghost towns to top off the old abandoned gas stations tanks, and when they ran out of those, they sent truck after truck out to the desert and kicked the valves open on the tanks and let the fuel dump out into the desert so they could have a legitimate looking shortage to justify jacking the price of fuel up so they could make more money.

My old man was one of the tanker drivers instructed to do this and they had entire convoys driving loaded tanks of fuel out to the desert to dump the fuel out in the sand.

you ever notice how when gas prices go up, the oil companies make more profit then they have ever made before? and these ***** in office get paid off to help keep it that way. not a damn one of them go to bat for the common american.

we are all f'ed no matter who wins elections.

 

as for ammo...I've been stock piling it lately lol...I got like 10,000rounds for my AR15-22 which is the one I shoot the most.

Got 1000 subsonic rounds. might need to get more at wally world

 

sorta... deregulation of banks was the root cause.. the requirements being lessened or eliminated were the reason monies were available to folks who couldn't afford it.. bankers were loaning to people they knew could not afford it... just to make the quick buck, and then sell the loss to another investor before they were bitten.. greed, in other words..

 

yep, and people getting loans falsifying their incomes to get a bigger loan, then it catches up to them and they default. It wasn't just the banks, it was the people getting the loans too.

People need to take responsibility for the **** they do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if you can afford something or not.