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Old 12-06-2012, 06:32 PM
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here a guess he gets 12 mpg on his rebuild. I can't wait for the results
 
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i can't upload pictures , anybody can help?
 
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Gotta use something like photobucket or imageshack.
 
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Originally Posted by peshewa
Higher octane fuel burns off faster
Pasture dressing. That is not what higher octane numbers mean at all.
 
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It means it's more resistant to burning. It acts as a timing retard.


 
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
It acts as a timing retard.
You're just damn baiting me now, right?

Let us not go there.
 
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dude94 is right on higher octane gas, i never know highe octane means burns faster, i only know it has higher resistance to selfburning.
 
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Originally Posted by UnregisteredUser
You're just damn baiting me now, right?

Let us not go there.
What'd I do? I coulda sworn that because it burned slower, in a sense it acted like a small timing retard. I'm not trying to get a beef with ya in the least.
 
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
What'd I do?
Octane numbers indicate how much you can compress the fuel before it ignites due to compression alone.

Advancing ignition timing increases combustion chamber temperature, which has the effect from the fuel's perspective of upping compression. What happens there, in a nutshell, is that the vapor pressure increases due to heating when the fuel enters that hot environment, so the vapor pressure is already increased above what it would be in a cooler engine even before the compression stroke begins. If you're running right on the edge of compression detonation, then you don't need that much more energy to initiate ignition... so a hot spark plug, an overheated portion of the cylinder wall that's not cooling because there's some nucleate boiling going on, whatever, is all it takes to ignite the fuel. Ping ping bang bang.

Where running too high an octane for the engine, the fuel doesn't get as close to that edge of compression ignition as it needs to be for effective flame front propagation. Instead of a relatively cohesive flame front like a balloon expanding, you get a raggedy thing more like the top of a campfire. Unless you've gone way over the edge a flame front will eventually form and progress at the same rate give or take a hoogivsa5h17 as the lower octane stuff. It's just happening after the piston has traveled further down the cylinder so it's not going to make as much horsepower.

In short: Higher octane = harder to ignite. Once lit, it's pretty much same:same.
 
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I didn't understand half of that post but I understand why you got pissed.
 


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