46RE Tranny Problem
#1
46RE Tranny Problem
I've got a 46RE in a 97 Ram 1500, It has about 137K on it. While I was towing a small trailer back from, I got a check engine light with a P0740 TCC control error. Possible causes were a bad Torque converter anddirty fluid. The guy at the tranny shop said to reset the code and se if it comes back before I do anything else, and if it was still gone, to change the fluid and tighten the bands and it MIGHT have been the fluid since it had been 30K since it's last ATF change.This way I didn't waste good money on a fluid change if thetranny needed to berebuilt anyway.
So I changed the fluid yesterday and tightened the Bands (according to the 72"lbs and back it off method) because the code never came back. When I got in it, and when I put it into drive, it boggs the tranny down to where it almost stalls it, then back up to idle. It only does this when I shift from Neutral, Reverse or Park into drive. If I drive in reverse, I have no stalling or hesitation.
When I go to accelerate, it revs up to 1500-1800, slams into gear with a clunk and goes. Thenit repeats that at the stop sign. I've checked the fluid and it's just the right level.
Is this me not adjusting the bands right? It sounds like the Torque Converter went belly up and the clutches aren't doing what they need to. Any advice would be great, because if it's dead, I'm having a custome one build for serious towing reliability. I'm going to try to readjust the front band on the outside of the tranny again and see what happens, but like I said, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Z
So I changed the fluid yesterday and tightened the Bands (according to the 72"lbs and back it off method) because the code never came back. When I got in it, and when I put it into drive, it boggs the tranny down to where it almost stalls it, then back up to idle. It only does this when I shift from Neutral, Reverse or Park into drive. If I drive in reverse, I have no stalling or hesitation.
When I go to accelerate, it revs up to 1500-1800, slams into gear with a clunk and goes. Thenit repeats that at the stop sign. I've checked the fluid and it's just the right level.
Is this me not adjusting the bands right? It sounds like the Torque Converter went belly up and the clutches aren't doing what they need to. Any advice would be great, because if it's dead, I'm having a custome one build for serious towing reliability. I'm going to try to readjust the front band on the outside of the tranny again and see what happens, but like I said, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Z
#4
RE: 46RE Tranny Problem
I think your converter went south.
Nothing is rotating in the trans until you start to drive so I don't think it's a band issue.
You might want to check the flow in your trans cooler. If some of the clutch came off the lock up in the converter it might have plugged it. I've seen plugged coolers cause shuddering and vibration on engagement. I think what happens is the pressure can't flow through the cooler it backs up and then causes the converter clutch to try and engage when your stopped.
Sounds like time for O-haul
Nothing is rotating in the trans until you start to drive so I don't think it's a band issue.
You might want to check the flow in your trans cooler. If some of the clutch came off the lock up in the converter it might have plugged it. I've seen plugged coolers cause shuddering and vibration on engagement. I think what happens is the pressure can't flow through the cooler it backs up and then causes the converter clutch to try and engage when your stopped.
Sounds like time for O-haul
#5
RE: 46RE Tranny Problem
Well...it could be thepressure switch, and /or your shift senlenoid....and your lockup seleniods...which are right next to it. Try changingthose first.You may have worn down the OD lining in the Torque convertor. That may have clogged the pressure switch. But I have a suspicion that at 137 K, your tranny is on the way out.
If you changed the fluid, was there a lot of crap in the pan? Not big chunks that everyone expects to see, but a fine black / metallic grunge. That gets into the selenoids and starts plugging things up.
If you changed the fluid, was there a lot of crap in the pan? Not big chunks that everyone expects to see, but a fine black / metallic grunge. That gets into the selenoids and starts plugging things up.
#6
RE: 46RE Tranny Problem
ORIGINAL: dsertdog56
Well...it could be thepressure switch, and /or your shift senlenoid....and your lockup seleniods...which are right next to it. Try changingthose first.You may have worn down the OD lining in the Torque convertor. That may have clogged the pressure switch. But I have a suspicion that at 137 K, your tranny is on the way out.
If you changed the fluid, was there a lot of crap in the pan? Not big chunks that everyone expects to see, but a fine black / metallic grunge. That gets into the selenoids and starts plugging things up.
Well...it could be thepressure switch, and /or your shift senlenoid....and your lockup seleniods...which are right next to it. Try changingthose first.You may have worn down the OD lining in the Torque convertor. That may have clogged the pressure switch. But I have a suspicion that at 137 K, your tranny is on the way out.
If you changed the fluid, was there a lot of crap in the pan? Not big chunks that everyone expects to see, but a fine black / metallic grunge. That gets into the selenoids and starts plugging things up.
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RE: 46RE Tranny Problem
The T.C. usually go for around $200.00 for stock specs. Front Pumpcan be around $225.00. The transgo kit runs about $60.00. Solenoids (Lock-Up/3-4,Gov. Press/Transducer) usually run around $250.00. Iknow a lot of people purchasethese parts frome-bay for half theseprices. I even saw aV.B. with newsolenoids/transgo kit on ebay for $250.00 If they actually did all the work with new solenoids that a pretty good deal. It is very tough to get a 100% accuratequote on a transmission rebuild. Most shops will quote about $1500-$2000. But for that priceyour getting pretty mucha stock transmission with a fewmodifications to fix the common comeback problems. Your notgetting any real HD parts. Themore you pay, the better the trans, lol, usually. Good luck, Nick.