does cherry bomb extream make fake duels, i like how dodgeram360 pipes come out, how you can see the tips well and how it hits off the pavement

 

I would bet money that the cherry bomb extreme would be the louder than any flowmaster muffler. And yes, it does come with a "fake dual" option. I was going to go with that muffler had the 44 sucked, but I have had just such great luck with this muffler. It was loud with just that catback, and now with the headers and gutted cat, it's insane, maybe even too loud lol. Im excited to see if the intake and throttle body will give it even more bark.

 

If you end up going with the round air cleaner it'll louden it up a decent bit.

 

When you gut out the cat, how did that affect the sensors at the cat?? mine is a 98 and was thinking about gutting the cat cause i think it is origional. I got the truck at 85000 and it now has 145000.

 

when you get your exhaust done, have them do a dual setup with a crossover pipe. its not worth it to do "fake" dual exhaust... whats the point? do it right once, and forget it. flowmaster 10 series mufflers are obnoxiously loud, especially at wide open throttle.. if thats what you want then go for it. if not, a good set of 40s if fine. the main thing is that you go REAL dual though. waste of money otherwise.

 

What I think is a waste of money is getting a goobery true dual if you don't need it. Gains are minimal from exhaust anyhow. Most of us will never build are engines up past bolt ons, so a true dual will hardly make a differance for an overall stock set-up. In fact, in most cases you will loose the torque you already have and just gain mid range and high end, which is nice, but for most guys with trucks, we're looking for extra torque, not to loose any we already possess. Sure true duals come with nice bragging rights, but if your just looking for sound and looking for a little extra torque, the dual outlet muffler is the way to go. This way you can still keep your torque you have, it will be just as loud, won't be a mess underneath the truck, and it will cost you less to maintain or have installed etc. I think exhaust set-ups vary for people. For some, a true dual is a good way to go, but for other people who don't plan to go crazy, all you need is a performance oriented muffler and cat.

 

you just lost ALL talking privledges.

Moderator, can we get a mute on this character for a week or two?

 

motors vary by the drivers personality. that's a new one on me.

NO. it's been proven by scientists that an engine benefits around 1.8x more from exhaust upgrades that it does through intake upgrades.

A DUAL EXHAUST SETUP WILL ALWAYS BENEFIT AN ENGINE. ALWAYS. NO MATTER WHAT THE LEVEL OF MODIFICATION. PERIOD. END OF STORY. dont start with the whole backpressure myth either because that is a complete folk tale. i will **** on that idea too if you'd like.


i'd like to bet money on it that a dual exhaust setup will produce more torque and horsepower than a single or fake or si/do setup or whatever, ever will. ever. ever.

take your truck to a dyno and find out.

you can't even install your own headers anyway, why am i arguing?

 

listen man i really hate ****ting on you. i really do. ur just giving me too much ammo and too many reasons to do it. if you just learned from your mistakes, and listened to what people whoknowwhat they are talking about aretelling you,then we'd all be smarter and happier.

 

lol I don't want to argue with you either. I don't know why you picked on what I said with exhaust and tires though. If you have a truck with normal sized tires, you are just going to see more gains than if you have 35" tires like me. For the true dual, what I'm saying is most of us have 4x4 trucks here. An we all are looking for torque, because that's the best you can really hope for with trucks like these. A true dual does take away torque. I'm not referancing backpressure at all. What I'm referancing is that the bigger the pipes and more air leaving, then you will loose torque. It's happened to me before with my neon. I had an oversized throttle body, and an oversized downpipe, killed the cars performance. I got rid of the downpipe and put the regular size piping back on, and then got a smaller throttle body, and boom, right back to where she was. My brothers truck, put the true dual on, his truck lost a little zip it had off the line but in return, gained mid range and upper end. Obviusly once he gets his truck back with the camshaft and headers in, then he will no longer have lost troque with that true dual because that enigne will need it now. I guess what I need to ask is do you believe that a truck with just an intake and perhaps a fastman (and this is pushing it) with a true dual will have more torque than a truck with the same intake and fastman and a single inlet/dual outlet. I know what you are saying about the true dual. Overall they help across powerbands, but you do loose torque if you don't have your work put into the truck to compensate. It's what I'm going through right now, even with my si/do system, I lost torque because I have all that air dumping out and notihng being forced into the enigne. When I get the fastman and intake, Im confident I'll regain any stock torque I had before and then some. IF I ever decide to get a camshaft, then I will go for a true dual. To me, sure a true dual is nice, but do you NEED one? No, not unless you get into a camshaft, that's generally the rule of thumb I've been tought. I believe there is a time and application for a true dual, trust me I do, but I think for most ppl asking abut exhaust on this forum, they are looking simply for sound and and to add a little more torque than what they already have. Put a true dual on a relatively stock enigne, and gains will only be seen mid range and upperend, and maybe thats what they want, but from what I get, they want as much torque possible.