Band adjustment
#1
Band adjustment
Are there any tranny guys in here? What is band adjustment used for and how do i know if mine will need it or not. i'm about to service my tranny (im at 100k miles) and i know the rear band is only accesable with the pan removed, figure this would be a good time to do this if i need it. this is what chrysler says from alldatapro
FRONT BAND ADJUSTMENT
The front (kickdown) band adjusting screw is located on the left side of the transmission case above the manual valve and throttle valve levers.
[*]Raise vehicle.[/ol] Front Band Adjustment Screw Location
[*]Loosen band adjusting screw locknut. Then back locknut off 3-5 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in case. Apply lubricant to screw threads if necessary.[*]Tighten band adjusting screw to 8 Nm (72 inch lbs.) torque with Inch Pound Torque Wrench C-3380-A, a 3-in. extension and 5/16 socket.[/ol] Band Adjustment Adapter Tool
CAUTION: If Adapter C-3705 is needed to reach the adjusting screw, tighten the screw to only 5 Nm (47-50 inch lbs.) torque.
46RE Transmission [*]Back off front band adjusting screw 2-7/8 turns.[*]Hold adjuster screw in position and tighten locknut to 41 Nm (30 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul]47RE Transmission [*]Back off front band adjusting screw 1-7/8 turns.[*]Hold adjuster screw in position and tighten locknut to 43 Nm (30 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul][*]Lower vehicle.[/ol]REAR BAND ADJUSTMENT
The transmission oil pan must be removed for access to the rear band adjusting screw.
[*]Raise vehicle.[*]Remove transmission oil pan and drain fluid.[*]Loosen band adjusting screw locknut 5-6 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in lever.[/ol] Rear Band Adjustment Screw Location
[*]Tighten adjusting screw to 8 Nm (72 inch lbs.) torque. 46RE Transmission [/ol][ul][*]Back off adjusting screw 2 turns.[*]Hold adjusting screw in place and tighten locknut to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul][/ul]47RE Transmission [*]Back off adjusting screw 3 turns.[*]Hold adjusting screw in place and tighten locknut to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul][*]Position new gasket on oil pan and install pan on transmission. Tighten pan bolts to 17 Nm (13 ft. lbs.) torque.[*]Lower vehicle and refill transmission with MOPAR ATF+4, Type 9602 fluid.[/ol]
FRONT BAND ADJUSTMENT
The front (kickdown) band adjusting screw is located on the left side of the transmission case above the manual valve and throttle valve levers.
[*]Raise vehicle.[/ol] Front Band Adjustment Screw Location
[*]Loosen band adjusting screw locknut. Then back locknut off 3-5 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in case. Apply lubricant to screw threads if necessary.[*]Tighten band adjusting screw to 8 Nm (72 inch lbs.) torque with Inch Pound Torque Wrench C-3380-A, a 3-in. extension and 5/16 socket.[/ol] Band Adjustment Adapter Tool
CAUTION: If Adapter C-3705 is needed to reach the adjusting screw, tighten the screw to only 5 Nm (47-50 inch lbs.) torque.
46RE Transmission [*]Back off front band adjusting screw 2-7/8 turns.[*]Hold adjuster screw in position and tighten locknut to 41 Nm (30 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul]47RE Transmission [*]Back off front band adjusting screw 1-7/8 turns.[*]Hold adjuster screw in position and tighten locknut to 43 Nm (30 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul][*]Lower vehicle.[/ol]REAR BAND ADJUSTMENT
The transmission oil pan must be removed for access to the rear band adjusting screw.
[*]Raise vehicle.[*]Remove transmission oil pan and drain fluid.[*]Loosen band adjusting screw locknut 5-6 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in lever.[/ol] Rear Band Adjustment Screw Location
[*]Tighten adjusting screw to 8 Nm (72 inch lbs.) torque. 46RE Transmission [/ol][ul][*]Back off adjusting screw 2 turns.[*]Hold adjusting screw in place and tighten locknut to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul][/ul]47RE Transmission [*]Back off adjusting screw 3 turns.[*]Hold adjusting screw in place and tighten locknut to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs.) torque.[/ul][*]Position new gasket on oil pan and install pan on transmission. Tighten pan bolts to 17 Nm (13 ft. lbs.) torque.[*]Lower vehicle and refill transmission with MOPAR ATF+4, Type 9602 fluid.[/ol]
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RE: Band adjustment
Is there a way to check to see if they need adjusting without doing this? I thought Wanye told me it was something you could pull down with your hand and see how far it came down and that should tell you if they need adjusting or not. I may call and ask him again and more about it when I change my fluid and check them but for right now I would probably forget again by then.
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RE: Band adjustment
ORIGINAL: hometheaterman
Is there a way to check to see if they need adjusting without doing this? I thought Wanye told me it was something you could pull down with your hand and see how far it came down and that should tell you if they need adjusting or not. I may call and ask him again and more about it when I change my fluid and check them but for right now I would probably forget again by then.
Is there a way to check to see if they need adjusting without doing this? I thought Wanye told me it was something you could pull down with your hand and see how far it came down and that should tell you if they need adjusting or not. I may call and ask him again and more about it when I change my fluid and check them but for right now I would probably forget again by then.
Of course, I forgot it all too.
#7
RE: Band adjustment
The bands control the 1-2 shift firmness and the 2-3 shift firmness. If you aren't having any shifting issues, leave them be. There's been more than one story here of a guy that adjusted the bands of a perfectly fine shifting truck as a part of "routine maintenance" and the truck never acted right afterward, or their tranny took a dump on them afterward. If you loosen the adjustment bolt too much and drop the tranny band anchor, you'll have to pull the valve body to reinstall it. That means you'll be chasing spings and little metal ***** all over your garage.
If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. My $0.02.
If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. My $0.02.
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#8
RE: Band adjustment
i dont think that is my problem...i think my torque converter took a ****. all my gears act fine shift fine no slippage....i just cant do a burn out on dry concrete to save my life....maybe its just the 3 ton 4wd truck and a swinky little 318 idk but i think a torque converter is my next thing...i refuse to give up on my trans especially after i saw little shavings and non burnt oil in my pan today
#9
RE: Band adjustment
Don't feel bad about the burn out issue. I have only been able to break mine free a couple of times (basically in a turn). I have the 3/4 ton with 8.0 V10 (488) with 4.10 gears. I should be able to eat the tires off of the truck and throw an impressive firework displayas Itear up the rims.
I thought about torque converter.Before I go there I'm going to play with exhaust a little. See if more breathing helps out some.
My old 318 in a Ramcharger with 3.90s could break 35inch BF GoodrichMTsloose onthe asphault...exspensive so I didn't do it much.
I thought about torque converter.Before I go there I'm going to play with exhaust a little. See if more breathing helps out some.
My old 318 in a Ramcharger with 3.90s could break 35inch BF GoodrichMTsloose onthe asphault...exspensive so I didn't do it much.
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RE: Band adjustment
ORIGINAL: eflores
i dont think that is my problem...i think my torque converter took a ****. all my gears act fine shift fine no slippage....i just cant do a burn out on dry concrete to save my life....maybe its just the 3 ton 4wd truck and a swinky little 318 idk but i think a torque converter is my next thing...i refuse to give up on my trans especially after i saw little shavings and non burnt oil in my pan today
i dont think that is my problem...i think my torque converter took a ****. all my gears act fine shift fine no slippage....i just cant do a burn out on dry concrete to save my life....maybe its just the 3 ton 4wd truck and a swinky little 318 idk but i think a torque converter is my next thing...i refuse to give up on my trans especially after i saw little shavings and non burnt oil in my pan today