wait is the link you gave me for the Hughes thing the kit with the pan cuz it was only 90 not 200???

 

Way to pull a dollar amount out of your *** there. The total for that hughes kit is $86. Granted you will need a new gasket and a $25 bill should cover that.
Go back a page and you will see one of my posts that has just a link in it. Look there.
EDIT: If you look at the page, that new plate is 1/4".
Matt, that is the part you need.

 

ok yea i looked at the link and was impressed i thought it would be more than that but with the price and he said 200 and i got kinda scared ha but yea i thought that the Hughes kit was a decent deal

 

Sorry I thought the price was $200, no pulling a price out of my ***, just a simple mistake, but I'm sure you have never made one of those

Do what you want, but I don't see the kit as a fix all, you are better off spending the money and replacing the stock intake manifold all together since its place should be at the bottom of a river rather than on top of the engines of these trucks

 

$100-ish dollars for the Hughes kit + gasket, or $500-$600+ dollars for the new Edelbrock or M1 manifold. Hmmm.

The Hughes kit or APS kit is a fix all, because it eliminates the problem. I've heard some replacement gaskets lasting 50k miles, some last a few hundred. I hope you're getting a good one, like Felpro or Remflex, otherwise it doesn't have a prayer of a chance of lasting anywhere near 50k.

The kits listed above eliminate the problem, aluminum + aluminum, rather than steel + aluminum. If you have the money, yeah, the new manifold is worth it. If you don't, then the Hughes/APS kit is worth it. Or you could even do a "modded kegger" type manifold (see the DIY thread). A new gasket and not the kit or new manifold is like rearching leaf springs. Sure, it'll work initially and is the cheapest, but it'll eventually do it again. You're fixing a symptom, not the problem.

If you're going that deep into the engine, you might as well do it right.

 

I just installed the hughes kit Saturday. This is the right price. The kit came with the plate, a gasket and replacement bolts.

 

well should i save up for the manifold? Is there a big difference in performance if i were to get the manifold, or is it gonna be a small difference that if i two rams drove one with a new manifold, and another with the Hughes kit would i even notice a difference?

 

Couldn't say, I simply went with the Hughes kit because that's what many of the members on here have and don't have any complaints.

 

I couldn't tell you about the intake. It would probably amount to a small difference. Kinda like when you run your truck real early in the morning and it fells more peppy than usual....
Some others that have done the M1 intake should chime in here...

 

Well reading off of hughes site (since they are the best and wouldn't lie about their products) their new edelbrock air gap intake netter almost .5 seconds in the quarter mile and 3.5 mph while increasing their gas mileage by 4 mpg

I don't really believe all of that, but I know that the kegger is probably the biggest POS I have ever seen for an intake setup and I will gladly spend the extra $400 more than the plenum kit to get rid of it. The M1 will look ALOT better and I would pretty much guarentee that you would see a difference in performance and fuel mileage. The M1 along with a set of edelbrock heads to replace that factory boat ancors and a nice torque cam and you would have one helluva motor for a truck