Considering the Dark Side...Somebody stop me!
#21
10-19-2009, 06:59 PM
Legend
#23
10-19-2009, 07:22 PM
Legend
#24
10-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Legend
#26
10-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Legend
#27
10-19-2009, 09:02 PM
Grand Champion
No no no no no no no no!
Not all Diesels were/are created equal. It doesn't happen. Every single Diesel motor out there has some sort of pit fall.
Duramax- Aluminum heads- too thin. Tend to warp under load. $1200+ fix. At the time, the injectors for the 6.6 was almost $400.00 a set.
Powerstroke- The 7.3 was a stout engine. The 6.0? Anemic as hell. Turbo issues on the 6.0, head gasket failure, fuel injection module failure.... On and on. The 6.4? Only get one of those if you really really want the truck to do a regen and then burn to the ground.
Cummins- Early 12 valve- Great. 24 valve- Kind of on the anemic side too when you compare it to other diesels of the same era. The 6.7? LOL You better drive like a bat out of hell all the damn time if you want decent MPGs and a motor that operates efficiently. If the EG temps don't get high enough, the truck wont complete a regeneration, and then you have a clogged up exhaust which requires a trip to a dealer to have fixed. I hate to admit it, but if and that's a big IF Ford keeps their word, they claim to have a Ford diesel block that will be pushing almost 850 HP at the crank. It's still unclear. If this happens, Cummins and Izuzu are going to have some extreme catching up to do.
I've been told this many times, and I see the truth in it:
Buy a Powerstroke if you want/need to tow all the time.
Buy a Duramax if you want to turn it into a street drag truck
Buy a Cummins if you want have an extreme play toy.
Dodge needs to be careful on their Diesel game. They have failed to follow through with the promise of a 1500 turbo diesel. It's not Cummins' fault that this hasn't happened. Cummins has already spent the research money needed, and they have the motor the 1500. Dodge has just failed to use it. IIRC, Cummins really isn't under obligation to where Dodge is the only one that can utilize their small diesel.
Not all Diesels were/are created equal. It doesn't happen. Every single Diesel motor out there has some sort of pit fall.
Duramax- Aluminum heads- too thin. Tend to warp under load. $1200+ fix. At the time, the injectors for the 6.6 was almost $400.00 a set.
Powerstroke- The 7.3 was a stout engine. The 6.0? Anemic as hell. Turbo issues on the 6.0, head gasket failure, fuel injection module failure.... On and on. The 6.4? Only get one of those if you really really want the truck to do a regen and then burn to the ground.
Cummins- Early 12 valve- Great. 24 valve- Kind of on the anemic side too when you compare it to other diesels of the same era. The 6.7? LOL You better drive like a bat out of hell all the damn time if you want decent MPGs and a motor that operates efficiently. If the EG temps don't get high enough, the truck wont complete a regeneration, and then you have a clogged up exhaust which requires a trip to a dealer to have fixed. I hate to admit it, but if and that's a big IF Ford keeps their word, they claim to have a Ford diesel block that will be pushing almost 850 HP at the crank. It's still unclear. If this happens, Cummins and Izuzu are going to have some extreme catching up to do.
I've been told this many times, and I see the truth in it:
Buy a Powerstroke if you want/need to tow all the time.
Buy a Duramax if you want to turn it into a street drag truck
Buy a Cummins if you want have an extreme play toy.
Dodge needs to be careful on their Diesel game. They have failed to follow through with the promise of a 1500 turbo diesel. It's not Cummins' fault that this hasn't happened. Cummins has already spent the research money needed, and they have the motor the 1500. Dodge has just failed to use it. IIRC, Cummins really isn't under obligation to where Dodge is the only one that can utilize their small diesel.
#29
10-20-2009, 01:01 AM
No no no no no no no no!
Not all Diesels were/are created equal. It doesn't happen. Every single Diesel motor out there has some sort of pit fall.
Duramax- Aluminum heads- too thin. Tend to warp under load. $1200+ fix. At the time, the injectors for the 6.6 was almost $400.00 a set.
Powerstroke- The 7.3 was a stout engine. The 6.0? Anemic as hell. Turbo issues on the 6.0, head gasket failure, fuel injection module failure.... On and on. The 6.4? Only get one of those if you really really want the truck to do a regen and then burn to the ground.
Cummins- Early 12 valve- Great. 24 valve- Kind of on the anemic side too when you compare it to other diesels of the same era. The 6.7? LOL You better drive like a bat out of hell all the damn time if you want decent MPGs and a motor that operates efficiently. If the EG temps don't get high enough, the truck wont complete a regeneration, and then you have a clogged up exhaust which requires a trip to a dealer to have fixed. I hate to admit it, but if and that's a big IF Ford keeps their word, they claim to have a Ford diesel block that will be pushing almost 850 HP at the crank. It's still unclear. If this happens, Cummins and Izuzu are going to have some extreme catching up to do.
I've been told this many times, and I see the truth in it:
Buy a Powerstroke if you want/need to tow all the time.
Buy a Duramax if you want to turn it into a street drag truck
Buy a Cummins if you want have an extreme play toy.
Dodge needs to be careful on their Diesel game. They have failed to follow through with the promise of a 1500 turbo diesel. It's not Cummins' fault that this hasn't happened. Cummins has already spent the research money needed, and they have the motor the 1500. Dodge has just failed to use it. IIRC, Cummins really isn't under obligation to where Dodge is the only one that can utilize their small diesel.
Not all Diesels were/are created equal. It doesn't happen. Every single Diesel motor out there has some sort of pit fall.
Duramax- Aluminum heads- too thin. Tend to warp under load. $1200+ fix. At the time, the injectors for the 6.6 was almost $400.00 a set.
Powerstroke- The 7.3 was a stout engine. The 6.0? Anemic as hell. Turbo issues on the 6.0, head gasket failure, fuel injection module failure.... On and on. The 6.4? Only get one of those if you really really want the truck to do a regen and then burn to the ground.
Cummins- Early 12 valve- Great. 24 valve- Kind of on the anemic side too when you compare it to other diesels of the same era. The 6.7? LOL You better drive like a bat out of hell all the damn time if you want decent MPGs and a motor that operates efficiently. If the EG temps don't get high enough, the truck wont complete a regeneration, and then you have a clogged up exhaust which requires a trip to a dealer to have fixed. I hate to admit it, but if and that's a big IF Ford keeps their word, they claim to have a Ford diesel block that will be pushing almost 850 HP at the crank. It's still unclear. If this happens, Cummins and Izuzu are going to have some extreme catching up to do.
I've been told this many times, and I see the truth in it:
Buy a Powerstroke if you want/need to tow all the time.
Buy a Duramax if you want to turn it into a street drag truck
Buy a Cummins if you want have an extreme play toy.
Dodge needs to be careful on their Diesel game. They have failed to follow through with the promise of a 1500 turbo diesel. It's not Cummins' fault that this hasn't happened. Cummins has already spent the research money needed, and they have the motor the 1500. Dodge has just failed to use it. IIRC, Cummins really isn't under obligation to where Dodge is the only one that can utilize their small diesel.
#30
10-20-2009, 01:18 AM
Grand Champion
