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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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lol naw I'm sticking with what I got. And when installing be sure to have a buddy with you.

Dakotas Ram I'm not sure who your talking about being a prerunner?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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yeah but the guy that made the post isn't needing a bullet proof system is why I was saying there not bad. If hes going to be racing he will need a better suspension
 
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav1n8
You can get spacers and add a leaf for that price. I have never seen any facts saying that you get better ride quality by paying extra for a kit. My buddys truck rides just fine with spacers and blocks. If your trying to ramp the dang thing, you may want to invest in a kit otherwise kits are jokes.
lifting that way changes the geometry of certain suspension components and wears them out faster....plus it IS a well known fact that add a leafs give the vehicle a stiffer rough ride as well as the type of spacers that you stuff into the front coil to keep them partially extended....many of the other type are known to often shatter and blocks in the rear on top of the factory height blocks are a silly unsafe idea. There are many real lift kits out there that have the factory ride quality....hell I bet some might be better...I have no idea where your reasoning for a leaf kit being a joke compared to spacers blocks and add a leak's but your misinformed and have it backwards.

I should add that add a leafs are fine if you dont mind a stiffer 3500 style ride...they are harder on your back and the reason they allow more to be thrown in the bed is they make the springs thicker and stiffer....not always a good thing when your axles are still 1500 axles....very easy to not notice your truck being over limit and breaking or screwing up the axle...they also have a tendency to make the rear end skate to side when hitting bumps like railroad tracks on an angle in the road.
and coil spacers are usually fine especially for a street vehicle but once you go over 2" with them they are proven to wear front end components out faster...
 

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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I'm guessing you wasted money on a kit haha. All that sounds like opinions. Wearing out front components may be true but I'm almost sure any lift kit is going to do that, especially if your adding bigger tires. I have never heard anyone on this website complain about their spacers, blocks, add a leafs. Geometry? The guys in a dodge for god sakes and a lifted one at that. He shouldn't be drifting around corners at 70 MPH. I'm sure there are better lift kits out there that are even better than stock suspension but they also cost a pretty penny that many arn't willing to drop on a Dodge. Besides the fact that we simply stated he could have bought a suspension lift for the same price as his body lift and his body lift is going to make it ride 10 times worse than the suspension lift we offered. Your trying to compare a xbox360 to a xbox360 elite. One may have more memory but it has memory that your never going to use. It's pointless to pay extra money for it when you will never need it.

I'm not misinformed or have it backwards. Many people simply lift there trucks to fit bigger tires. I'm offering them simplest cheapest way. Unless you have pictures of someones vehicle crashing due to a block, spacer, or leaf, then I beleive my way is the smartest and by far the most cost efficent way to go.

I have a 13 inch lift with stock 1500 axles. No problems.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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I'm guessing you wasted money on a kit haha. All that sounds like opinions. Wearing out front components may be true but I'm almost sure any lift kit is going to do that, especially if your adding bigger tires. I have never heard anyone on this website complain about their spacers, blocks, add a leafs. Geometry? The guys in a dodge for god sakes and a lifted one at that. He shouldn't be drifting around corners at 70 MPH. I'm sure there are better lift kits out there that are even better than stock suspension but they also cost a pretty penny that many arn't willing to drop on a Dodge. Besides the fact that we simply stated he could have bought a suspension lift for the same price as his body lift and his body lift is going to make it ride 10 times worse than the suspension lift we offered. Your trying to compare a xbox360 to a xbox360 elite. One may have more memory but it has memory that your never going to use. It's pointless to pay extra money for it when you will never need it.

I'm not misinformed or have it backwards. Many people simply lift there trucks to fit bigger tires. I'm offering them simplest cheapest way. Unless you have pictures of someones vehicle crashing due to a block, spacer, or leaf, then I beleive my way is the smartest and by far the most cost efficent way to go.

I have a 13 inch lift with stock 1500 axles. No problems.
nope I have a body lift...Your statement about a body lift having a ten times worse ride than add a leafs and coil spacers proves you have no idea what your talking about.... body lifts just raise the body...they do not effect the ride quality in any way but one...they change the center of gravity because the vehicle is lifted...And in that respect they are even better than any other lift because a good portion of the weight (frame) stays at the lower stock height distributing the weight more evenly....and as for stock 1500 axles with 42" tires...well that helps me prove my point about the smart way to do things vs the cheapest.....well see how much you love that setup after you replaced the wheel bearings a few times....and let me guess stock 3.55 gears with 42" tires? I bet its like driving a 4 cyl armytank... 0-60 in 2 mins...?

and their are lots of people here that had the coil spacers shatter this is where I heard about it.... as far as adding blocks to the rear...thats halfass unsafe thing to do on our rams and yes I have seen pics online as well have heard of everything from them falling out or comming loose and having the axle shift....I even read about some genuis making them out of wood and having them shatter....they are a bad idea on our rams because their is already a tall factory block there from the factory....with some suspensions the blocks arent there and can be added,replaced with larger or the axles can be flipped to the bottom from the top of the springs (that has been known to cause issues with twisting as well)

and lets not forget the real advantage that a real suspension lift has over both budget spacers and bodylift.....they are almost always more flexable when offroading = better offroad performance....the ramp you mentioned was invented to measure offroad performance
 

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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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haha okay whatever makes you sleep at night. I now know your not mad you waisted money on a suspenion lift kit, your mad you could of had a suspension lift for cheaper. It's all opinions on what is better between a SL and BL. Some have bad experiences with both.

The COG is affected with a body lift. While its only three inches highes, thats 3" more being applied to the suspension. It works like a cheater bar, unlike a susp lift where the weight is still the same dist from the suspension, pulling it the same in corners. A BL is similar to adding a bunch of weight to a roof rack..

I'm sure you've HEARD of suspension parts breaking left and right. I've also heard Dodge Ram's never have any tranny problems.

Your acting like I said the $160 suspension lift is the best thing in the world. I never said that, I simply stated they are safe for everyday driving and the most economical way to lift your truck. You then proceeded to say you can't lift it right this way and alls I did was correct you.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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you mention the change in ride quality with add a leafs and spacers, let me quote myself here,
the only change in the ride on my truck is a little less bounce on speed bumps since i put add a leafs on.
the coil spacers don't allow that extra couple inches of spring travel, but like i said earlier, if that extra couple inches matter that much then maybe you should be getting more than a 2.5" lift anyway. the coil spacers keep the factory ride intact.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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I'm sure he's just trying to help but I'm not sure if hes had experience with both. Just going off what hes read.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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you guys mention a ride quality, it's a truck, tbh if you wanted ride quality why buy a truck? imo they're meant to go off road and haul stuff.
 
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