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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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when i mentioned ride quality, i was referring to how it was when it was stock compared to how it is with my poor mans lift.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav1n8
Theres nothing wrong with add a leaf or blocks imo. All give you what your going for which is bigger height so you can clear larger tires. No one is jumping there truck off a cliff purposely so its stupid to build some bullet proof lift kit when blocks or add a leaf will give you the same result.
Aside from Evil Knivel, who jumps trucks off of cliffs?? And since when is it stupid to build bullet proof suspension that is far more robust and actually safe?

Blocks are ghetto, and add a leaf is for people who overload their trucks. Do it right and get different springs. Even better, link it.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 011500Ram
Aside from Evil Knivel, who jumps trucks off of cliffs?? And since when is it stupid to build bullet proof suspension that is far more robust and actually safe?

Blocks are ghetto, and add a leaf is for people who overload their trucks. Do it right and get different springs. Even better, link it.
Yeah I agree people should spend 500+ $'s on their vehicle so they can fit there 2 inch larger tires and drive there 15 miles everyday on pavement to work. Waisting 160 to clear them tires you wanted is dumb
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav1n8
Yeah I agree people should spend 500+ $'s on their vehicle so they can fit there 2 inch larger tires and drive there 15 miles everyday on pavement to work. Waisting 160 to clear them tires you wanted is dumb
People who mimic the look of capable vehicles, are what we commonly refer to as "bros".

and 500+? Try $5000+. You have to pay to play.
 

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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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If I recall 500+ can range anywhere from 500 and up ? "bros"? Guess ima bro my dreams of being cool are ruined haha
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Sick brah.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rumble_truck
you guys mention a ride quality, it's a truck, tbh if you wanted ride quality why buy a truck? imo they're meant to go off road and haul stuff.
well thats sort of right. A 2500 or 3500 is more meant for work a 1500 is supposed to be a balance of a light yet comfortable recreational vehicle meant for mild work duty....thats why all the new 1500 and 150's have Suv suspension it them now....have you Drove one lately? they drive like a car not a truck....
the point I was trying to make is the poor mans lift does more harm than good in both performance on and off road as well as safety....another problem with add a leafs I didnt mention is they change the way to load is applied to the springs.....so now you have thinner top springs with more of a load on the outer edges because the lower springs have been beefed up so much by the add a leafs they are essentually a big block now and dont properly flex....this weakens the top spring and makes them more likely to shatter when overloaded with weight and at the same time your less likely to notice the truck is overloaded....
sherrif I know you said you dont notice any ride difference except being less bouncy (that means a stiffer ride btw)....my z51 package in my vette has no bounce either but its a killer on your teeth and back on the smallest bumps..
the fact is I've rode in trucks lifted this way and it does make the ride quality worse compared to what you can achieve spending $150 on a body lift or a few hundred on a suspension lift...
 

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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Amazing, someone who understands basic suspension principals. Better dawn your flame suit for speaking blasphemy about spacers and other halfassed lifts!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav1n8
If I recall 500+ can range anywhere from 500 and up ? "bros"? Guess ima bro my dreams of being cool are ruined haha
what are you talking about?....the body lifts are about $40 more than your blocks and spacer cost....the reral suspension lift that adds function and offroad handling is around $400 to 500 bucks but that comes withthe right size shocks that actually work without bottoming out.....
bottom line if you can afford to buy huge tires and can afford the additional gas and maintenance from added strain on the truck from the big tires than theirs no room for the "I cant afford it" argument....if you really cant you shouldnt be running withthe big dogs....
And to be perfectly honest like I said earlier I dont really have an issue with someone using add a leaf's and coil spacers...they have their place ....just like a3000lb ferrari kit car with a 75hp motor I guess.....attention...without function thats what they are for
But what I do have an issue with was the totally incorrect statements you were giving about them not being inferior in function or ride quality compared to a body or proper fully lifted properly suspension lift with correct hardware to correcting extend things like shock travel and proper lenght control ,sway and track bars....You were spreading misinformation...I tried to correct you and you got offensive about something you dont know enough about to even dispute. Anyone who installs them for a living or has had both will tell you that blocks and spacers and even add a leafs never have a better ride quality or perform as well and safe as a proper lift.
 

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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 011500Ram
Aside from Evil Knivel, who jumps trucks off of cliffs?? And since when is it stupid to build bullet proof suspension that is far more robust and actually safe?

Blocks are ghetto, and add a leaf is for people who overload their trucks. Do it right and get different springs. Even better, link it.
i don't see anything wrong with my setup for how i use my truck (i don't do rock crawling or desert racing). if it turns out that you are right and i end up rolling my truck or if i have my suspension make some ungodly noises as they give me a big FU then i'll make a thread just so you can say i told you so.

Originally Posted by Augiedoggy
another problem with add a leafs I didnt mention is they change the way to load is applied to the springs.....so now you have thinner top springs with more of a load on the outer edges because the lower springs have been beefed up so much by the add a leafs they are essentually a big block now and dont properly flex....this weakens the top spring and makes them more likely to shatter when overloaded with weight and at the same time your less likely to notice the truck is overloaded....
that is a much better explanation than just saying that they're bad. now i see where you are coming from.
my truck squats when it is not overloaded because my leafs are wore out a little, so the add a leafs are a good alternative to new springs in my opinion.

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the body lifts are about $40 more than your blocks and spacer cost....the reral suspension lift that adds function and offroad handling is around $400 to 500 bucks but that comes withthe right size shocks that actually work without bottoming out.
i don't like the look of a body lift compared to suspension. that and with just a body lift you don't gain any ground clearance.
 
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