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Old 01-09-2010, 04:18 PM
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^ was that an expensive fix Laramie?
 
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Right at 10 grand. Fought with the insurance company for weeks trying to get them to not total it. We won.
 
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Wow. Good to see you got to keep it though.

Laramie, when they determined the worth of your truck, do you remember what it was closest to as far as like KBB/NADA etc? Retail? Private party? Or was it way different?

Like I said a few posts back, the majority of the frame appears to be ok, just the pillar in the door/cab got pushed back.
 
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:28 PM
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10 grand?!

im going to be more cautious when drifting/doing donuts/off-roading now lol....im scared the get her hit ...
 
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first things first - glad your ok. damn snow and ice.

insurance company will negotiate to total/not total to some degree, but in general, when the repair estimate reaches 80% of NADA value (~KBB private party), then they will total it. the reason they make that decision at 80% is due to the risk of "hidden damage". once they begin paying for the repair, they're pretty much hooked for the whole job, and body shops LOVE to find an extra $1000 in hidden damage.

also - the totaled truck has some value as a wreck - perhaps 5-10%, so they factor that in.

if the total is borderline, you will have some input - which way do you want to go. some people want to save a vehicle at all costs. others don't want it back after a wreck. insurance company will negotiate a little, but not a lot.

not meaning to throw off on your truck, but for the most part - its a 95 dodge ram and will be valued as such, in spite of how nice it is. if you have any recent purchase receipts for new tires, or stereo, or engine components - you should collect those up. you might be able to negotiate higher value, or perhaps remove them..... (maybe) before they take possession.

something i had to do once. my son was in a wreck and his car was damaged pretty heavy in the rear. a couple of the real expensive shops estimated it as totaled. a couple more were borderline. a couple more were well below total. so i turned in the medium priced estimates and signed a "liability waiver" at a certain value. this meant i was responsible for any hidden damage. i felt ok with that risk and took it to the lower priced shop anyway and pocketed the difference. don't enter an agreement like that blindly, but it can be used to save a borderline total.

if you have paint/body skills, or have a buddy that does, you will have first dibs to buy the wreck back, but beware that it can get old quick, and it just drains the cash you need to buy another truck. plus - you'll have a salvage title that's not worth much. if you do buy it, don't give more than a few hundred for it.
 
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Originally Posted by rideordie
Wow. Good to see you got to keep it though.

Laramie, when they determined the worth of your truck, do you remember what it was closest to as far as like KBB/NADA etc? Retail? Private party? Or was it way different?

Like I said a few posts back, the majority of the frame appears to be ok, just the pillar in the door/cab got pushed back.
They tried to use their "list" to evaluate my truck. The only saving grace was the thousands of dollars I have sitting the truck for audio equipment. We had all of that tied into the policy, so that helped the value a great deal. In the beginning, they tried to tell me that they went by the value of the truck alone minus any upgrades. That's when **** hit the fan royally. I had to pull in KBB reports from all over the country proving that the truck was worth 30% more than the repair bill. (In MO, it's state law that states that any vehicle that has 70% damage is an automatic total)

We got it done, but had to pull a fast one that the insurance didn't catch. We showed them a KBB for a 1997 2500 5.9 CTD loaded out that was worth at the time 18K. Truck was located down in TX, so geographic played a major role.
 
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Originally Posted by dhvaughan
first things first - glad your ok. damn snow and ice.

insurance company will negotiate to total/not total to some degree, but in general, when the repair estimate reaches 80% of NADA value (~KBB private party), then they will total it. the reason they make that decision at 80% is due to the risk of "hidden damage". once they begin paying for the repair, they're pretty much hooked for the whole job, and body shops LOVE to find an extra $1000 in hidden damage.

also - the totaled truck has some value as a wreck - perhaps 5-10%, so they factor that in.

if the total is borderline, you will have some input - which way do you want to go. some people want to save a vehicle at all costs. others don't want it back after a wreck. insurance company will negotiate a little, but not a lot.

not meaning to throw off on your truck, but for the most part - its a 95 dodge ram and will be valued as such, in spite of how nice it is. if you have any recent purchase receipts for new tires, or stereo, or engine components - you should collect those up. you might be able to negotiate higher value, or perhaps remove them..... (maybe) before they take possession.

something i had to do once. my son was in a wreck and his car was damaged pretty heavy in the rear. a couple of the real expensive shops estimated it as totaled. a couple more were borderline. a couple more were well below total. so i turned in the medium priced estimates and signed a "liability waiver" at a certain value. this meant i was responsible for any hidden damage. i felt ok with that risk and took it to the lower priced shop anyway and pocketed the difference. don't enter an agreement like that blindly, but it can be used to save a borderline total.

if you have paint/body skills, or have a buddy that does, you will have first dibs to buy the wreck back, but beware that it can get old quick, and it just drains the cash you need to buy another truck. plus - you'll have a salvage title that's not worth much. if you do buy it, don't give more than a few hundred for it.
Ok. Thank you for the help. My dad is going to try to keep it from being totaled since it is a nice truck despite its age.

Private party says ~3k, while retail is 4-5k depending where you look. I planned on taking off the accesories I've put into it since I surely won't get what I paid for unless I take them off.

I'll see how much it is to buy back if it is totaled..Might be worthwhile to either part out or keep for spares..Save a lot of $$ long term.
 
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the first day i bought my sunfire, i stayed at my best fiends for the night, and his mom backed into it with a tacoma.....wrecked the bumper, part of hood, radiator....got an estimate from the highest costing shop, got the estimate....but one of my dads friends did auto body, high costing repair shop said 2 grand...that was under what it was worth at the time....brought that to the insurance, they sent me a check to bring to them....but instead i brought it to the guy who knew autobody, he charged me 700, i made out with 1300 bucks lol
 
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Originally Posted by 95RAM360
the first day i bought my sunfire, i stayed at my best fiends for the night, and his mom backed into it with a tacoma.....wrecked the bumper, part of hood, radiator....got an estimate from the highest costing shop, got the estimate....but one of my dads friends did auto body, high costing repair shop said 2 grand...that was under what it was worth at the time....brought that to the insurance, they sent me a check to bring to them....but instead i brought it to the guy who knew autobody, he charged me 700, i made out with 1300 bucks lol
Yeah..Mine was taken to the dealership so I'm sure it'll be a lot of $$...Hopefully not too much.

Edit: If we do fix it, we'll likely do most or all of the work ourselves..Save some $$
 

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Sorry to here about your truck, glad your ok
 


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