Screwed the pooch (AIM airhat)
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Screwed the pooch (AIM airhat)
Well,
I had everything painted and ready to go, so I was going to mount the air hat. WELL, I was using the factory bracket (requires no S curve bolt to mount) and I messed up.
At first I was thinking, "Won't my milled fastman require a different (smaller) bolt for this?" Because the bracket was just a hex head bolt. Well, i was correct. I was ratcheting it in, and it started getting harder. I should have stopped there because I was torquing on an aluminum TB. But I only needed 2 more MM of torque.
I broke it off in my fastman.
Anyone know how I should go about this? I don't remember the size of the bolt for drilling and tapping, but I have a full drill bit set. I was thinking of just drilling it out and using some JB weld.
Looking back, I should have gotten a straight piece of threaded bar (I had a short piece with a nut) and dialed it in.
How should I re-drill and tap?
--Dan
BTW, this just set me back a week because I have no time left today or tomorrow and I just hate doing this during the week.
I had everything painted and ready to go, so I was going to mount the air hat. WELL, I was using the factory bracket (requires no S curve bolt to mount) and I messed up.
At first I was thinking, "Won't my milled fastman require a different (smaller) bolt for this?" Because the bracket was just a hex head bolt. Well, i was correct. I was ratcheting it in, and it started getting harder. I should have stopped there because I was torquing on an aluminum TB. But I only needed 2 more MM of torque.
I broke it off in my fastman.
Anyone know how I should go about this? I don't remember the size of the bolt for drilling and tapping, but I have a full drill bit set. I was thinking of just drilling it out and using some JB weld.
Looking back, I should have gotten a straight piece of threaded bar (I had a short piece with a nut) and dialed it in.
How should I re-drill and tap?
--Dan
BTW, this just set me back a week because I have no time left today or tomorrow and I just hate doing this during the week.
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#3
uggghhhh that sucksss.... I know how it feels man, good luck with getting it out
I don't suppose there's enough bolt sticking out to grab with vice grips right? That's be too easy lol... Drill it and get some bolt extractors, it's not like it's a rusty old seized bolt so it shouldn't be too bad
I don't suppose there's enough bolt sticking out to grab with vice grips right? That's be too easy lol... Drill it and get some bolt extractors, it's not like it's a rusty old seized bolt so it shouldn't be too bad
#5
You've probably bottomed out the stud, and galled the aluminum threads as well.
Simple extraction methods won't work, and if you don't have a way to precisely drill out the stud, you could really screw yourself...pun intended.
If you don't have the proper means to accurately drill the hole, a machine shop may be able to help. It will cost you, but most lessons like this do.
They'll drill it out with the proper "tap drill" (not a 1/4 inch), and that should leave the threads intact. Then they may be able to pick the threads clean and run a chaser tap, or retap the hole, or if avalible, helicoil the hole.
Simple extraction methods won't work, and if you don't have a way to precisely drill out the stud, you could really screw yourself...pun intended.
If you don't have the proper means to accurately drill the hole, a machine shop may be able to help. It will cost you, but most lessons like this do.
They'll drill it out with the proper "tap drill" (not a 1/4 inch), and that should leave the threads intact. Then they may be able to pick the threads clean and run a chaser tap, or retap the hole, or if avalible, helicoil the hole.
#6
A buddy of mine has a weird tool for this and for the life of me I can't remember what its called. He's a metal worker and he runs into this problem all the time. It almost looks like a mini pitchfork w/ sharp points. It has a ratchet tip on the other end. All you do is rest it on the broken bolt and tip it with a hammer and it creates little dimples and then you drill the small holes about 1/16 into the bolt and reinsert the pitchfork. Backs it out all the time. I sure you could rig something up to do the same thing.
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A buddy of mine has a weird tool for this and for the life of me I can't remember what its called. He's a metal worker and he runs into this problem all the time. It almost looks like a mini pitchfork w/ sharp points. It has a ratchet tip on the other end. All you do is rest it on the broken bolt and tip it with a hammer and it creates little dimples and then you drill the small holes about 1/16 into the bolt and reinsert the pitchfork. Backs it out all the time. I sure you could rig something up to do the same thing.
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#10
Seldom have to drill bolts at work when we snap them but they tend to be 9/16th (print press/folder parts)
If the broken bolt left a ridge/line when it snapped thats usually best.
I use a pin punch & tap it (straight up & down) off center but not so far that its close to the threads.
Once a small dimple is there I will then angle the punch to about 50-70 deg & tap it out counter clock wise.
Dia of this bolt & being in alum. maybe a bit trickier especially if you did bottom out the bolt.
May have to get a machine shop to do it as mentioned
If the broken bolt left a ridge/line when it snapped thats usually best.
I use a pin punch & tap it (straight up & down) off center but not so far that its close to the threads.
Once a small dimple is there I will then angle the punch to about 50-70 deg & tap it out counter clock wise.
Dia of this bolt & being in alum. maybe a bit trickier especially if you did bottom out the bolt.
May have to get a machine shop to do it as mentioned